So, do you still then need me to do those things we discussed off list? If
not then you need to let me know privately, so I can book studio time for
someone else instead. Please with all due respect, don't keep me waiting
any longer than necessary.
Chris.
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From: "Gordon Smith" <[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, July 18, 2013 12:32 AM
Subject: Re: Logic Pro X Initial Findings
I'm not yet sure of 100% accessibility. Haven't got that far as yet.
However, we're starting to wonder whether ProTools would be worth while
for our needs as we're only wanting to do multi-track recording, mixing
and editing. If Logic works, then great. My problem re ProTools is that
I don't think you can buy/download on line. You have to wait for boxed
shipments it seems, which I am not willing to do. Regarding the iLocker,
I thought that was only for the free trial. I actually have one of those
smart dongles but haven't got around to using it yet. I meant to try
ProTools a while back, and again yesterday but if you cannot buy/download,
then it's a damp squibb for me and I'll just have to hope that Logic
works, or else resort to the less powerful tools like Reaper and Amadeus
Pro. Those tools are quite powerful and I'm not knocking them. But I
don't believe they have the multi-track / mixing functionality of ProTools
or Logic Pro X by quite a way.
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On 17 Jul 2013, at 21:54, Dan Eickmeier <[email protected]> wrote:
It'd be great if Logic pro X is accessible to the point where it'll be
very useful. Was considering getting protools, but with Logic being a
lot cheeper, and plus, not require the iLock system for registration,
which protools does, it'll be good to install on multiple macs as well.
On 2013-07-17, at 4:25 PM, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Chris
Yes, you're correct, that's the exact keyboard I have. So great to hear
that it is compatible. If that's the case I will go and look to see
what the price of ProTools is and, if it's something we can afford I'll
try and obtain it assuming, of course, you can buy it on line and
download it. What's the difference between Protools and Protools HD?
I'd imagine that I would only require ProTools unless it's going to make
a huge difference.
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On 17 Jul 2013, at 21:14, Chris Moore <[email protected]> wrote:
Gordon,
You have described a MIDI controller keyboard, which you probably
connect via USB. This will work with all music software on Mac OS X.
Pro Tools used to insist on Pro Tools compliant hardware, but even Pro
Tools 9 onwards supports M Audio gear.
Your keyboard will work with Logic no problem. Most MIDI controller
keyboard / mother keyboards tend not to have any sound hardware built
in, as it is not required. However, you can use MIDI enabled synths
and workstations etc to perform the same task, but obviously these tend
to cost more.
Overall, Garage Band is pretty accessible, the only major hurdle is
that it is not possible to edit MIDI events.
Seems like a big number of us have requested improved support in this
area from Apple, and I imagine a number of users have probably emailed
Apple regarding Logic X. So here's hoping, as I really miss using this
baby.
Chris
On 17 Jul 2013, at 21:01, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi Chris
We may do that as well. But Lynne decided to take the plunge, and if
this turns out to be a damp squibb, then it's we who will have paid
the price I guess. ProTools is about 4 times the price, and the other
aspect that made us decide to try it was because of the keyboard which
I have. It's a 4 octave M-Audio keyboard which has been kind of
butchered by the manufacturers so that all the synthesiser and other
internal stuff is missing. It's designed to work only with GarageBand
but I'm hoping it will work with Logic as well. I take your point
though about importing projects. I'm just hoping that the rest of it
is accessible, as in the multitrack editors and mixers etc.. If not,
then we'll have to think again. I really cannot afford to pay
hundreds for the software and twice as much again for the keyboard to
make ProTools work properly.
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On 17 Jul 2013, at 20:55, Chris Moore <[email protected]>
wrote:
Gordon,
I have not purchased Logic X yet, as already have Logic 9 Studio
which I used to use whilst I could see. Since Logic 8, you have
always been able to import Garage Band projects, so nothing new here.
Most of the library which you download for Logic X, used to come on
various DVDs with logic 9 Studio.
Were you not tempted to purchase Pro Tools? Pro Tools is much more
accessible on the Mac than Logic.
I think Logic is fantastic value for money, so do hope Voiceover
support is improved.
Chris
On 17 Jul 2013, at 20:18, Gordon Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all
Well, I've only just started playing and the downloading of the
additional plug-ins and sample instruments is huge, just under 50GB
in total. So far, I can only say that the in initial projects
window is much more accessible than the previous version of Logic
Pro that I tried on my brother-in-law's Mac about a year ago. All I
got that time was Unknown, unknown, from VoiceOver. Now, I am
getting the correct project status read as I scroll through the
demos.
Too soon to get over-excited but one thing I can tell you. It
supports GarageBand projects and enhances them according to the
documentation. So if you've used GB to create a project, you can
import it into Logic Pro X and do enhanced work. It comes with over
a thousand samples, loops and virtual instruments. It is this
aspect which excites me because if indeed it is fully GarargeBand
compatible, then my M-Audio keyboard should work. I'm hoping to be
able to create some audio content for our radio projects, amongst
other things. I've been talking to a friend of mine today who runs
a company which produces audio stuff for use on commercial radio and
TV. If you are a Smooth Radio listener here in the UK, you'll have
heard Alex's work and actually I believe he's also done some stuff
for US radio organisations as well. But anyway I'm getting off the
point. The point here is that Alex has told me that he's more than
interested to see how this goes with regards acces
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y. It could be of use to him as well if I can help him with some of
his work load. He uses ProTools primarily, with a 24-bit digital
mixer console purchased from the BBC when they decommissioned it.
That is the core of his studio setup. But he uses a lot of hardware
music-creation stuff which I can only dream about! He is more than
willing to help me though if this works. That's why Lynne decided
to take the plunge and test it. If it works, great, so much the
better for us all. If it does, I will produce an audio demo for the
Sparkle Radio "Techno Chat" series which is broadcast from here.
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