Thanks Esther - some very helpful tips and suggestions here. I'll have a
play, and no doubt will become more practiced -
Andy
----- Original Message -----
From: "Esther" <[email protected]>
To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: The insertion point when working with text
Hello Andy,
In addition to the change that Anne describes under Verbosity in the
VoiceOver utility to speak text to the right of the cursor, you can
forward delete a character on a Mac laptop keyboard by pressing Fn+delete,
where the Fn key is at the bottom left corner of the Mac laptop or Apple
Wireless keyboard. To forward delete a word, press Fn+Option+delete.
David Griffith is correct that in the long run it will help to get used to
the notion of the insertion point being located between letters, and
VoiceOver announcing the letter you just moved over depending on the
direction in which you moved. Maybe what would help you is to take a text
document, and use movement keys like your right and left arrow keys, in
combination with holding down the shift key to select text. VoiceOver
will announce what has been highlighted, and you can move in either
direction, or to the beginning or end of a line (with Command+Left arrow
or Command+Right arrow) while continuing to hold down the shift key, and
you'll hear the characters announced as you move and select. You can also
move and select by words as well as by characters, by pressing
Option+Right arrow and Option+Left arrow. And if you hold down the Shift
key along with the Option key as you tap your arrow keys, you'll hear the
selections announced as you add (or remove) words.
What's going to happen, though, is that if you change your verbosity so
that VoiceOver speaks the text to the right of the cursor, some of those
word deletions won't make sense, because you'll be positioned one
character off.
On the iPhone with a paired keyboard, because the "Fn" key isn't
recognized in iOS, I have to forward delete by pressing the Shift key and
tapping the right arrow key, then pressing the delete key.
HTH. Cheers,
Esther
On 19 Jul 2013, at 03:50, Anne Robertson wrote:
Hello Andy,
You can change the way the insertion point works to be more like JAWS in
VoiceOver Utility, Verbosity, Text, When moving the cursor: click the
button and select Speak text to the right of the cursor.
Personally, I like the standard Mac way of doing things which is that the
insertion point is to the right of what you just heard when navigating to
the right, and to the left of what you just heard when navigating to the
left. This seems logical to me.
Cheers,
Anne
On 19 Jul 2013, at 14:57, Andy Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi all -
At the moment, the way things are set up is confusing me when I am
trying to edit text in mail or Text Editor. When I try to delete a
character, or correct a spelling manually, I'm fiddling about trying to
get the focus on the right character to delete. All too often, I find
the wrong character has been deleted, because the insertion point [if
that's the correct term for it] is focussed somewhere else in the word
than where I expect it to be. How/where do I look to change this, so it
works in the more familiar way I'm use to from using JAWS? -
Andy
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