Remember that if you make a mistake deleting the wrong character or word, you 
can also "undo" commands with Command+z  and redo them with Command+Shift+z.  
The Command+z shortcut also works if you accidentally delete a file and want to 
immediately get it back. It won't work, though, if in between you've gone off 
to work in some other application and issued lots of other commands, then 
suddenly decide that you want the file back.  At that point you'd have to 
actually move to your Trash file to copy or move the deleted file out.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On 19 Jul 2013, at 05:04, ANDY COLLINS wrote:

> Thanks Esther - some very helpful tips and suggestions here. I'll have a 
> play, and no doubt will become more practiced -
> 
> Andy
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Esther" <[email protected]>
> To: "Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Friday, July 19, 2013 3:53 PM
> Subject: Re: The insertion point when working with text
> 
> 
>> Hello Andy,
>> 
>> In addition to the change that Anne describes under Verbosity in the 
>> VoiceOver utility to speak text to the right of the cursor, you can forward 
>> delete a character on a Mac laptop keyboard by pressing Fn+delete, where the 
>> Fn key is at the bottom left corner of the Mac laptop or Apple Wireless 
>> keyboard.  To forward delete a word, press Fn+Option+delete.
>> 
>> David Griffith is correct that in the long run it will help to get used to 
>> the notion of the insertion point being located between letters, and 
>> VoiceOver announcing the letter you just moved over depending on the 
>> direction in which you moved. Maybe what would help you is to take a text 
>> document, and use movement keys like your right and left arrow keys, in 
>> combination with holding down the shift key to select text.  VoiceOver will 
>> announce what has been highlighted, and you can move in either direction, or 
>> to the beginning or end of a line (with Command+Left arrow or Command+Right 
>> arrow) while continuing to hold down the shift key, and you'll hear the 
>> characters announced as you move and select.  You can also move and select 
>> by words as well as by characters, by pressing Option+Right arrow and 
>> Option+Left arrow.  And if you hold down the Shift key along with the Option 
>> key as you tap your arrow keys, you'll hear the selections announced as you 
>> add (or remove) words.
>> 
>> What's going to happen, though, is that if you change your verbosity so that 
>> VoiceOver speaks the text to the right of the cursor, some of those word 
>> deletions won't make sense, because you'll be positioned one character off.
>> 
>> On the iPhone with a paired keyboard, because the "Fn" key isn't recognized 
>> in iOS, I have to forward delete by pressing the Shift key and tapping the 
>> right arrow key, then pressing the delete key.
>> 
>> HTH.  Cheers,
>> 
>> Esther
>> 
>> On 19 Jul 2013, at 03:50, Anne Robertson wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello Andy,
>>> 
>>> You can change the way the insertion point works to be more like JAWS in 
>>> VoiceOver Utility, Verbosity, Text, When moving the cursor: click the 
>>> button and select Speak text to the right of the cursor.
>>> 
>>> Personally, I like the standard Mac way of doing things which is that the 
>>> insertion point is to the right of what you just heard when navigating to 
>>> the right, and to the left of what you just heard when navigating to the 
>>> left. This seems logical to me.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 19 Jul 2013, at 14:57, Andy Collins <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all -
>>>> 
>>>> At the moment, the way things are set up is confusing me when I am trying 
>>>> to edit text in mail or Text Editor. When I try to delete a character, or 
>>>> correct a spelling manually, I'm fiddling about trying to get the focus on 
>>>> the right character to delete. All too often, I find the wrong character 
>>>> has been deleted, because the insertion point [if that's the correct term 
>>>> for it] is focussed somewhere else in the word than where I expect it to 
>>>> be. How/where do I look to change this, so it works in the more familiar 
>>>> way I'm use to from using JAWS? -
>>>> 
>>>> Andy
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 

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