Hi Andy, Groups mode generally works well when you are visiting web sites that you are familiar with, because you can often navigate faster through the groups organization. It's generally not something that feels "natural" to most Windows switchers, just as most recent Mac switchers find it difficult to get used to "interacting" as a concept. Groups vs. DOM mode navigation on Web pages is just an individual preference, and the best way to check out the differences is simply by visiting a few web pages and changing your setting. For example, if I visit the Mail Archive pages for this list in Groups mode because I want to review the threaded topics, maybe because I haven't been following these in mail because I've been traveling, it's faster for me to skip over the blocks of replies under a given thread if I have group navigation on. But there are some places, like the iTunes Store, where I prefer to use DOM mode.
I think this is a refinement that you can look into later, and not something essential to figuring out web navigation for a new Mac user. While I'd guess that the fraction of Groups mode users is higher among long time Mac users, it's by no means a given that all long time Mac users prefer to use Groups mode over DOM mode. HTH. Cheers, Esther On 23 Jul 2013, at 05:44, Andy Collins wrote: > Thanks - I will indeed do that - > > Andy > ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Griffith" > <[email protected]> > To: "'Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility'" <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2013 4:18 PM > Subject: RE: Reading to the end of a document > > >> You could look at the voiceover manual on browsing the web to see if that >> helps >> >> http://www.apple.com/voiceover/info/guide/_1134.htmlo >> >> I have not personally used Group mode but I assume it works by grouping >> similar elements of a web page together rather than encountering them in the >> normal linear method of reading a web page that most will be familiar with. >> So presumably tables and list will be grouped together for example I guess. >> Someone will correct me if I am wrong. >> >> >> David Griffith >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: [email protected] >> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Andy Collins >> Sent: 23 July 2013 16:03 >> To: Mac OSX & iOS Accessibility >> Subject: Re: Reading to the end of a document >> >> Well now, to choose dom or groups, is as yet, untrodden terirtory to me. Not >> sure when I'd choose one over the other, as I don't know what each has to >> offer - >> >> Andy >> On 23 Jul 2013, at 15:31, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hello Andy, >>> >>> Josh is correct that some commands have no shortcut assigned to them but >> they can be assigned to any of the commanders. For instance, I always set a >> Keyboard commander shortcut to toggle between DOM and Groups mode for Web >> browsing. In general, I prefer Groups mode, but for some tasks, DOM is more >> effective. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Anne >>> >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> To reply to this post, please address your message to [email protected] You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access forum at either the list's own dedicated web archive: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> or at the public Mail Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security strategy. We assume neither liability nor responsibility should something unpredictable happen. Please remember to update your membership preferences periodically by visiting the list website at: <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/mailman/listinfo/mac-access/options/>
