Laurel, if it's a TTS, don't even attempt. the libraries are of such on
OSX, that this isn't gonna work, and even if it did, you'd not be able to
get it working with voiceover. It has to do with how Apple has designed the
over all Voiceover accessibility hooks and framework.
I understand you don't have a physical package. Linux often times calls
applications packages. Would I be correct in assuming that you either have
never heard of Linux, or have hardly any knowledge in that field? I don't
mean this to sound rude, and if it comes across as such, please know that is
not my intention. furthermore, this isn't to blow you off, as I still do
want to help you, and I promise that I will continue on or off list to help
you, but, it sounds to me like what needs to happen here is you need to read
up a lot more on linux and how it works before trying to tackle a task like
this. Linux is a very powerful OS, and if you don't know what you're doing,
it can be a bit tricky to understand. I just hate seeing you struggle with
this, and wonder if you're getting slightly in over your head with it. the
fact you didn't know what I meant when I used the term package indicates to
me that you may not have the most in depth knowledge with Linux systems.
that's ok. there isn't a single thing wrong with that, nor is this in any
form or shape a public way of me belittling you. Trust me, that is
definitely not my entention, and I earnestly hope that it is not taken that
way. If it is, please please please please please! accept my most profuse
apology in advance. I just feel based on the emails that you have sent so
far regarding this topic that it's gonna be way harder than you think to get
this working, and probably will even be impossible, but on that note, I'll
let others maybe with more knowledge than I comment.
Again, this is not in any respect meant to down your level of knowledge, I
just think you're personally gonna get very very frustrated more quickly
with this than you will have success. I could be wrong though.
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Laurel and Stockard" <laurel.stock...@gmail.com>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:41 PM
Subject: Re: can programs designed for lenox also be used on OS 10 Maverick
I actually don't have a physical package for this, it's an open source text
to speech engine that I downloaded for free. The files are mostly in the
unix executable file type. It's possible that I could open these with
terminal, would you recommend I try that?
I figure if I screw up, I can just take this off my computer and start
over again. :-)
Laurel
On Dec 10, 2013, at 7:36 PM, Christopher gilland
<ch...@clgproductions.com> wrote:
Your best bet is to look at the packages documentation.
If you've gotten it installed, out of pure chance, you can look at the
man page, and that should tell you. the other thing you can also do is
figure out what dependencies it needs which again should be in the pkg's
docks. Otherwise, if you got it installed and are just wonderring, you
can try typing "which PackageName." Actually though, that may only tell
you where the actual binaries are. I don't think that specifically tells
you it's deps. I think there is a way with apt to get the list of
dependencies provided it's in one of your apt repositories, but I don't
remember the argument to pass through apt to do that. You might be able
to pipe a command through grep and figure it out. Not knowing the
package, nor having the documentation in front of me, it's kind of hard
to really guide you specifically.
Chris.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel and Stockard"
<laurel.stock...@gmail.com>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:23 PM
Subject: Re: can programs designed for lenox also be used on OS 10
Maverick
Chris, stupid question but I can't figure this out. How can I find out
what location the program's libraries are in? I'm sure the answer is
really obvious, and that I'm probably over thinking this, but yeah. lol
Laurel
On Dec 10, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Christopher gilland
<ch...@clgproductions.com> wrote:
Laurel,
first off, let's not confuse people. The O S is Linux, not Linox.
It's l i n u x, not l i n o x.
Secondly, it's definitely something that you could try. It depends on
what libraries it needs to work, and if all of them are in the correct
location, (usually /usr/bin.) some will be in /var or in /etc, although
most in /usr/bin. As long as they're there, there is a chance.
Notice, I did say, a, chance. It's honestly kind of hard to say.
Here's something though you could try if nothing else. go to:
http://www.macports.com
What this site basically is, is a repository of aps which have
deliveretly been ported over to work in Terminal on the Mac. These
apps normally were designed to run on Linux.
the other thing too about this is, if you don't find a macports for it,
and have to install it yourself, depending on the package, you might
have to build and compile it from source, which, if you don't have make
installed, (type "which make" at the prompt to find out,) then it may
not work. I suppose you could try sudo apt-get install make, but don't
count on it. Keep in mind that trying to do sudo apt-get install
YourPackageName probably isn't gonna work. this is because
/etc/apt/sources.list is probably totally different from the repos
you'd find in a Linux distro like Ubuntu/Debian, or Fedora, etc. So
yeah...
In summation, it's possible, but don't hold your breath to it.
Chris.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Laurel and Stockard"
<laurel.stock...@gmail.com>
To: "OS X & iOS Accessibility" <mac-access@mac-access.net>
Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 6:05 PM
Subject: can programs designed for lenox also be used on OS 10 Maverick
So, I'm looking at an open source program that would help me with
learning another language. Here's the thing, it says the program is
for windows or lennox though, but, I've been told that Lenox is pretty
similar to actual OS 10 Mavericks. So, as my subject line says, could
an open source program written and designed to work on lenox also work
on OS 10 Mavericks? Would it hurt to download it and try? Or would it
be totally nonworkable.
Laurel
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