Yes, calling or reporting these bugs is important. Apple accessibility are great people, but they’re only human. :) I must say I didn’t notice this bug until you pointed it out, and it is far from the worst thing that could be wrong. ALl the best, Zack. On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm not surprised actually. apple does not have enough engineers to test for > accessibility and enough individuals to do the same. I've seen this with > every ios release that comes out and when you do contact them via the > community forums you get treated as if you were a numskull which I'm not as > I've dealt with computers for the past 25 almost 26 years now. and no one > seems to understand that we use voice over, they think we use voice control > which are 2 totally different things. > > I'm thinking that in the future the iPad might have a 3/4 matrix hence why > you are seeing this bug, but i'm just grasping at straws as to why this is > happening. > > Take care > On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Christopher gilland <ch...@clgproductions.com> > wrote: > >> I'm going to try explaining this the best that I can. If an audio demo is >> necessary for better understanding, just let me know, and I'll make one. >> >> I should add that I did test on the IPhone and do not have this issue. I >> also should add that I have restored my IPad which had no baring. >> >> It seems that in this version on the IPad of I O S, each folder is arranged >> in a 3 by 3 grid. This mweans there are 3 icons going virtically, by 3 >> going horizontally. So, in my Utilities folder, there are 23 apps all >> total. This means about 5 pages to that one folder. >> >> On the first page, the first 3 icons on the first row, going horizontally >> are contacts, Clock, then notes. Stick with me here. I know this is really >> confusing. I can't imagine if you can't physically see what I'm talking >> about, let alone, if you can. >> >> So, the second row of that first page starts with Camera. No need for me to >> continue. I can now present you this concept. >> >> The first icon of the first row on the second page is News Stand. So, back >> on page 1, again, the top row, just to recap, is: contacts, Clock, then >> Notes. What is happening is, once on Notes, if I then flick again to the >> right one time, it, should! key word, should! wrap to the first icon on row >> two of that first page, which is Camera, right? >> >> Wrong! What it's actually! doing is, it's moving the Voiceover focus to the >> first icon on the next page's same row. So, in other words, the first icon >> of the second page, on the first row, is News Stand. Therefore, If I'm on >> the first row flicking right icon by icon on the first page, I hear >> Contacts, Clock, Notes, then one more flick, I hear News Stand. Then! if I >> flick again, I hear the little directional click telling me I jumped down to >> the next row, and I then hear Camera, which is correct. That indeed is! the >> first icon on the first page, second row. I don't remember the next two >> icons of the second row first page, and my IPad's not in front of me to >> look, but I do know, that the first icon of the second row on the second >> page of that folder is Safari, in my case. So I get to Camera on row 2, >> page 1. I flick right, another app. I flick right, the final app of that >> row. I flick right again... Boom, you guessed it! Safari! It's almost >> like it thinks it shoul > d be a 3 by 4 grid, not a 3 by 3. It's like it thinks there should be 4 > icons horizontally per page, as aposed to what it really! is, which is 3 by > 3. If I double tap on one of the icons not on the page, like when it goes > into la la land, say on page one, if I double tap on Safari, the folder > crashes/closes, and returns me to the home screen. Before anyone asks, no, > this definitely is not a developer seed. I'd not be discussing it, if it > was. I'm no fool. LOL! This is 7.0.6. I'm speaking the update that just > came out the other day. It's also kind a weird, as after the 3rd icon on > whatever row, if I flick right again, the little box that indicates the > Voiceover cursor kind of moves off the window with the page's icons kind of > offset a bit to the left of the first most icon of the next row. In all > actuality, nothing is visually there. It's just black blank screen area real > estate. Again, I reidderate that this is not happenning on the latest update > with my IPhone 5 > S. I'm only seeing it on my IPad 4th Gen 16GB White AT&T. >> >> I must say that this is extremely bizarre! You'd think restoring would fix >> things, but it didn't, and no. I did not restore from a backlup when I did. >> I set it up as a brand new device, then redownloaded the apps, and >> rearranged them manually. Yeah, pain in the kneck, I know, but I was at my >> wits end. I can't faddum this at all! >> >> I did let Apple know about this by calling their Accessibility line. the >> guy is going to call me back on Saturday when he gets in the office. He's >> also going to meanwhile try getting a test IPad to see if he can reproduce >> the issue. He said if nothing else, he'd try on his IPad 2, tonight when he >> got home. He said the IPad was in his car, and they won't allow him to >> leave the building while he's on shift. He also said either way, he'd >> submit this up to engineering. 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