I personally would not worry about it. I mean it's not like it is hindering 
your use of the machine, but at least it's been reported and will be fixed in a 
major release at some  point in time, weather it be in a few months or years.

tc.
On Feb 26, 2014, at 6:23 PM, Christopher Gilland <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> I agree.
> 
> So, you’re also noticing this?  That’s good to know… well… ok, let me restate 
> that.  It’s good to know that I’m not going crazy.  LOL!  I was like, ok, am 
> I hallucinating, or is it really doing this.
> 
> Chris.
> 
> On Feb 26, 2014, at 8:15 PM, Zachary Kline <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Yes, calling or reporting these bugs is important. Apple accessibility are 
>> great people, but they’re only human. :) I must say I didn’t notice this bug 
>> until you pointed it out, and it is far from the worst thing that could be 
>> wrong.
>> ALl the best,
>> Zack.
>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 5:10 PM, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> I'm not surprised actually. apple does not have enough engineers to test 
>>> for accessibility  and enough individuals to do the same. I've seen this 
>>> with every ios release that comes out and when you do contact them via the 
>>> community forums you get treated  as if you were a numskull which I'm not 
>>> as I've dealt with computers for the past 25 almost 26 years now.  and no 
>>> one seems to understand that we use voice over, they think we use voice 
>>> control which are 2 totally different things.
>>> 
>>> I'm thinking that in the future the iPad might have a 3/4 matrix hence why 
>>> you are seeing this bug, but i'm just grasping at straws as to why this is 
>>> happening. 
>>> 
>>> Take care
>>> On Feb 26, 2014, at 4:17 PM, Christopher gilland <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'm going to try explaining this the best that I can.  If an audio demo is 
>>>> necessary for better understanding, just let me know, and I'll make one.
>>>> 
>>>> I should add that I did test on the IPhone and do not have this issue.  I 
>>>> also should add that I have restored my IPad which had no baring.
>>>> 
>>>> It seems that in this version on the IPad of I O S, each folder is 
>>>> arranged in a 3 by 3 grid.  This mweans there are 3 icons going 
>>>> virtically, by 3 going horizontally.  So, in my Utilities folder, there 
>>>> are 23 apps all total.  This means about 5 pages to that one folder.
>>>> 
>>>> On the first page, the first 3 icons on the first row, going horizontally 
>>>> are contacts, Clock, then notes.  Stick with me here.  I know this is 
>>>> really confusing.  I can't imagine if you can't physically see what I'm 
>>>> talking about, let alone, if you can.
>>>> 
>>>> So, the second row of that first page starts with Camera.  No need for me 
>>>> to continue.  I can now present you this concept.
>>>> 
>>>> The first icon of the first row on the second page is News Stand.  So, 
>>>> back on page 1, again, the top row, just to recap, is:  contacts, Clock, 
>>>> then Notes.  What is happening is, once on Notes, if I then flick again to 
>>>> the right one time, it, should! key word, should! wrap to the first icon 
>>>> on row two of that first page, which is Camera, right?
>>>> 
>>>> Wrong!  What it's actually! doing is, it's moving the Voiceover focus to 
>>>> the first icon on the next page's same row.  So, in other words, the first 
>>>> icon of the second page, on the first row, is News Stand.  Therefore, If 
>>>> I'm on the first row flicking right icon by icon on the first page, I hear 
>>>> Contacts, Clock, Notes, then one more flick, I hear News Stand.  Then! if 
>>>> I flick again, I hear the little directional click telling me I jumped 
>>>> down to the next row, and I then hear Camera, which is correct.  That 
>>>> indeed is! the first icon on the first page, second row.  I don't remember 
>>>> the next two icons of the second row first page, and my IPad's not in 
>>>> front of me to look, but I do know, that the first icon of the second row 
>>>> on the second page of that folder is Safari, in my case.  So I get to 
>>>> Camera on row 2, page 1.  I flick right, another app.  I flick right, the 
>>>> final app of that row.  I flick right again... Boom, you guessed it!  
>>>> Safari!  It's almost like it thinks it shoul
>>> d be a 3 by 4 grid, not a 3 by 3.  It's like it thinks there should be 4 
>>> icons horizontally per page, as aposed to what it really! is, which is 3 by 
>>> 3.  If I double tap on one of the icons not on the page, like when it goes 
>>> into la la land, say on page one, if I double tap on Safari, the folder 
>>> crashes/closes, and returns me to the home screen. Before anyone asks, no, 
>>> this definitely is not a developer seed.  I'd not be discussing it, if it 
>>> was.  I'm no fool.  LOL!  This is 7.0.6.  I'm speaking the update that just 
>>> came out the other day.  It's also kind a weird, as after the 3rd icon on 
>>> whatever row, if I flick right again, the little box that indicates the  
>>> Voiceover cursor kind of moves off the window with the page's icons kind of 
>>> offset a bit to the left of the first most icon of the next row.  In all 
>>> actuality, nothing is visually there.  It's just black blank screen area 
>>> real estate.  Again, I reidderate that this is not happenning on the latest 
>>> update with my IPhone 5
>>> S.  I'm only seeing it on my IPad 4th Gen 16GB White AT&T.
>>>> 
>>>> I must say that this is extremely bizarre!  You'd think restoring would 
>>>> fix things, but it didn't, and no.  I did not restore from a backlup when 
>>>> I did. I set it up as a brand new device, then redownloaded the apps, and 
>>>> rearranged them manually.  Yeah, pain in the kneck, I know, but I was at 
>>>> my wits end.  I can't faddum this at all!
>>>> 
>>>> I did let Apple know about this by calling their Accessibility line.  the 
>>>> guy is going to call me back on Saturday when he gets in the office.  He's 
>>>> also going to meanwhile try getting a test IPad to see if he can reproduce 
>>>> the issue.  He said if nothing else, he'd try on his IPad 2, tonight when 
>>>> he got home.  He said the IPad was in his car, and they won't allow him to 
>>>> leave the building while he's on shift.  He also said either way, he'd 
>>>> submit this up to engineering.  He's just about as perplexed as I am, if 
>>>> not more so!
>>>> 
>>>> Chris. 
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