Hello, My name is Adi Kushnir and I am from Israel. I will share with you anything I can on this topic, but please don't ask for more, see below why: I have been discussing this with Apple since Nuance came out with this voice, about a year and a half ago. My reason for that was iOS accessibility, not so the Macintosh. With Hebrew TTS, there are lots of legal and technical problems of distribution and this is why Apple have not done it yet. For the computer world we don't need this so much at Israel because the country services help us by funding other screen readers for Windows, such as the best and leading JAWS from Freedom Scientific which I am also commited for making it available as a Hebrew supported and localized release and it's going quite wel here. So, for the computer space we don't need that mucha and this is not the main focus eria. We need iOS. I can not share anything with you do to none-disclosure agreement with Apple inc, but there is some progress. Don't write to Apple Accessibility because no answers that are relevant will be given to you. I kindly ask you to close this topic for now and waite for the near future to come, atleast for iOS accessibility. Again, don't ask me any more about it and there is no reason to continue this topic on list because nothing can be said/announced/done today.
Best regards, Adi. 2014-05-09 10:39 GMT+03:00, Rafi Cohen <[email protected]>: > Hello all, > Technicly, there is a way of incorporating the Hebrew voice into Mac OS X. > This can be done with Carmit - the voice that you are talking about. But, > it > envolves writing this voice in a way that will be recognized by the speech > manager interface. It is totally possible because Apple uses Vocalizer > Expressive already, so you have just to write Carmit and wrap it with a > wrapper. But, the version you have for NVDA is not that good, because Apple > uses a more recent version of the TTS in OS X and even in iOS, NVDA uses > V1.1 and Apple uses V1.3 and they can not work together. There is currently > a development going on here in Israel, which I have not tested but heard on > a machine of somebuddy who is trying to get it around. But, this > development > requires an investment, and I think it will be the best to wait until WWDC > because there are currently discussions with Apple going on for them to > build it into iOS and OS X. I'll update you when I'll have more > information. > > Best regards, > > Rafi. > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Laurel and Stockard > Sent: Thursday, May 08, 2014 9:26 PM > To: OS X & iOS Accessibility > Subject: Re: Hebrew voices, thoughts and question? > > Ok, I did find it with vocalizer for NVDA. So, question, can you get NVDA > voices and use them with other things, Voiceover etc? I feel like short of > just using a program like VM Fusion and windows on the mac, there's gotta > be > some kind of work around. I feel like there's probably some back door type > way to get this voice installed on a mac, it's just, we haven't found it > yet. Thoughts? > Laurel > On May 8, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: > >> This voice is very good, from the little I know about Hebrew. It is for > NVDA. >> Salome in Yeshuah. >> >> >>> On May 7, 2014, at 21:56, Laurel and Stockard >>> <[email protected]> > wrote: >>> >>> Hi guys, >>> I ran across an interesting piece of information today regarding a >>> Hebrew > voice for text to speech solutions. Apparently, Nuance has developed > recently and put out a Hebrew voice, named Carmit. This voice is available > on windows and Android platforms. Now, what makes this interesting is that > from what my research taught me, Apple actually uses Nuance as a voice > provider. Most of my voices that I use with voiceover are in fact Nuance > voices. Tarik, the Arabic voice, and Aurelie, the French voice, are 2 > examples of this, as well as the English South African voice. >>> Now, apparently all that Apple would have to do it would seem to make >>> the > Hebrew Carmit voice available would be to add it to its Nuance voice > server. > It seems that this could be rather an easy fix for Apple, especially since > they already use a tun of Nuance voices. >>> Question 1, what do you guys think? Is this a possible solution? I know > there are a small group of us that really want a Hebrew voice. >>> question 2, do any of you know if it's possible to somehow get a Nuance > voice, like this Hebrew one, on the mac through some 3rd party means? I > wish > there was a way I could try and make it work. >>> Anyway, I'm interested in you alls thoughts on this. If you wanna know > more or hear a sample, just google "Hebrew voice Carmit Nuance." >>> Thanks >>> Laurel >>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>> >>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>> [email protected] >>> >>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>> forum > at either the list's own dedicated web archive: >>> <http://mail.tft-bbs.co.uk/pipermail/mac-access/index.html> >>> or at the public Mail Archive: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. >>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> >>> >>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we do our very best to ensure > that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, Trojan, virus and > worm-free. However, this should in no way replace your own security > strategy. 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