Whoops, didn't mean to mention it on such a list like this one. I
thought I was replying to a thread over on another list without checking
the header. So along with you I decline to comment as well.
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu
On 23/08/2014 21:12, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Since the discussion of osx 10.10 is in violation of apple's nda even though
the bet is public I decline to comment on accessibility changes if any to osx
10.10
Take care. On Aug 23, 2014, at 12:46 PM, Christopher Hallsworth
<[email protected]> wrote:
Well, let's see what Yosemite brings to the table shall we? I know
accessibility probably wasn't discussed thoroughly if at all in the Keynote on
Yosemite, but I bet you $10 Apple has been working behind the scenes to improve
VoiceOver or add new features and capabilities.
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu
On 23/08/2014 19:30, gs wrote:
Hmm. I'll try this next time I want to read a table. But I have to say that
the table navigation is so poor with the column weirdness that I'm glad I don't
have to use a Mac in a work environment. I love it for what it does well but
can't understand why there are not more incremental improvements with new
releases of the OS. We really need to somehow get to a point where VO can be
enhanced/fixed without an operating system update but I realize this may never
happen.
On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:
I just hit vo up and down arrow on the colomns. this often works except on
certain web pages. I hate qn for some reason, and yes I know how to use it.
lol! I did some materials on it, but I personally don't use it.
On Aug 23, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Christopher Hallsworth <[email protected]>
wrote:
Ok here is a tip for you all.
1. Make sure quicknav is on with left-right.
2. Go to a table by pressing either t or vo-command-t.
3. Use the rotor command until you find navigation. Rotor is left-up or
right-up.
4. Now press either up or down by itself and see if you can navigate the table
better.
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu
On 23/08/2014 12:50, Sean Murphy wrote:
Hi all.
Safari on the Mac does Sucks. If you do reverse navigation on your Audible
library book list table. It moves to the colin on the right as you move up by a
row. It doesn’t keep you in the same column. This is one of many issues I have
with it.
Google Chrome really works nicely on the Mac. Only problems I have with it is
that you cannot activate links when you are in the table mode. Also I have not
yet worked out how to copy links or if a link refers to a document/file. You
cannot download it, rather then opening it. This is something you can do on
Windows browsers. I haven’t check this with Safari on the Mac.
The biggest thing I feel that goes for Chrome on the Mac is the search feature.
This is really powerful. Nothing else does this.
IOS safari also isn’t a pleasant experience. It works fine with simple pages.
But I have found it doesn’t activate all fields or links. Try to sign in using
Audible as an example.
I have not yet seen if Chrome is any better.
Sean
On 23 Aug 2014, at 4:59 pm, Christopher Hallsworth <[email protected]>
wrote:
I wouldn't say it sucks but sometimes VoiceOver does jump around on especially
complex pages. I like it a bit more on the mac though but that's not to say I
won't ever use it under iOS.
Christopher Hallsworth
Student at the Hadley School for the Blind
www.hadley.edu
On 22/08/2014 20:46, Phil Halton wrote:
I was thinking of IOS browsers when I made my comments that Safari sucked pond
water. I do like safari on the mac, but would like to find something else for
ios. Any good ios browser suggestions?
On Aug 22, 2014, at 1:39 PM, matthew stubbs <[email protected]> wrote:
There is a hole list of them you can use.
Instabrowser, atonicweb etc but like what has been stated before none are
able to be your default browser.
It depends what you want to use it for. But like most people have said I
personally find safari work best for me and does all I need it to do.
On 22 Aug 2014, at 18:23, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote:
I personally don't see a use for any other web browser. There isn't any use,
accessibility wise, for anything besides safari. Safari can already downloading
stuff, I used it to download things and send them to dropbox.
On Aug 22, 2014, at 12:18, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> wrote:
I personally like safari, but I have use and also like dgoogle chrome as a web
browser. you cannot how ever use it as yoru default browser but it works.
On Aug 22, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke
<[email protected]> wrote:
Try google or Chrome
On 22 Aug 2014, at 13:51, "Jim Noseworthy" <[email protected]>
wrote:
Hi Folks:
Is there a better option out there rather than Safari for WEB browsing?
Thanks.
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