I know they’ve improved Alex, that’s what I heard while I still ran the beta. On Aug 23, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Christopher Hallsworth <[email protected]> wrote:
> Well, let's see what Yosemite brings to the table shall we? I know > accessibility probably wasn't discussed thoroughly if at all in the Keynote > on Yosemite, but I bet you $10 Apple has been working behind the scenes to > improve VoiceOver or add new features and capabilities. > > Christopher Hallsworth > Student at the Hadley School for the Blind > www.hadley.edu > > On 23/08/2014 19:30, gs wrote: >> Hmm. I'll try this next time I want to read a table. But I have to say >> that the table navigation is so poor with the column weirdness that I'm glad >> I don't have to use a Mac in a work environment. I love it for what it does >> well but can't understand why there are not more incremental improvements >> with new releases of the OS. We really need to somehow get to a point where >> VO can be enhanced/fixed without an operating system update but I realize >> this may never happen. >> >> >> >> On Aug 23, 2014, at 1:44 PM, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I just hit vo up and down arrow on the colomns. this often works except on >> certain web pages. I hate qn for some reason, and yes I know how to use it. >> lol! I did some materials on it, but I personally don't use it. >> On Aug 23, 2014, at 10:40 AM, Christopher Hallsworth >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ok here is a tip for you all. >>> 1. Make sure quicknav is on with left-right. >>> 2. Go to a table by pressing either t or vo-command-t. >>> 3. Use the rotor command until you find navigation. Rotor is left-up or >>> right-up. >>> 4. Now press either up or down by itself and see if you can navigate the >>> table better. >>> >>> >>> Christopher Hallsworth >>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind >>> www.hadley.edu >>> >>> On 23/08/2014 12:50, Sean Murphy wrote: >>>> Hi all. >>>> >>>> >>>> Safari on the Mac does Sucks. If you do reverse navigation on your Audible >>>> library book list table. It moves to the colin on the right as you move up >>>> by a row. It doesn’t keep you in the same column. This is one of many >>>> issues I have with it. >>>> >>>> Google Chrome really works nicely on the Mac. Only problems I have with it >>>> is that you cannot activate links when you are in the table mode. Also I >>>> have not yet worked out how to copy links or if a link refers to a >>>> document/file. You cannot download it, rather then opening it. This is >>>> something you can do on Windows browsers. I haven’t check this with Safari >>>> on the Mac. >>>> >>>> >>>> The biggest thing I feel that goes for Chrome on the Mac is the search >>>> feature. This is really powerful. Nothing else does this. >>>> >>>> IOS safari also isn’t a pleasant experience. It works fine with simple >>>> pages. But I have found it doesn’t activate all fields or links. Try to >>>> sign in using Audible as an example. >>>> >>>> I have not yet seen if Chrome is any better. >>>> >>>> Sean >>>> On 23 Aug 2014, at 4:59 pm, Christopher Hallsworth >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I wouldn't say it sucks but sometimes VoiceOver does jump around on >>>>> especially complex pages. I like it a bit more on the mac though but >>>>> that's not to say I won't ever use it under iOS. >>>>> >>>>> Christopher Hallsworth >>>>> Student at the Hadley School for the Blind >>>>> www.hadley.edu >>>>> >>>>> On 22/08/2014 20:46, Phil Halton wrote: >>>>>> I was thinking of IOS browsers when I made my comments that Safari >>>>>> sucked pond water. I do like safari on the mac, but would like to find >>>>>> something else for ios. Any good ios browser suggestions? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 1:39 PM, matthew stubbs <[email protected]> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> There is a hole list of them you can use. >>>>>>> Instabrowser, atonicweb etc but like what has been stated before none >>>>>>> are able to be your default browser. >>>>>>> It depends what you want to use it for. But like most people have >>>>>>> said I personally find safari work best for me and does all I need >>>>>>> it to do. >>>>>>> On 22 Aug 2014, at 18:23, Devin Prater <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I personally don't see a use for any other web browser. There isn't >>>>>>>> any use, accessibility wise, for anything besides safari. Safari can >>>>>>>> already downloading stuff, I used it to download things and send them >>>>>>>> to dropbox. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 12:18, Sarah k Alawami <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I personally like safari, but I have use and also like dgoogle >>>>>>>>> chrome as a web browser. you cannot how ever use it as yoru default >>>>>>>>> browser but it works. >>>>>>>>>> On Aug 22, 2014, at 6:38 AM, Eleanor Martha Burke >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Try google or Chrome >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 22 Aug 2014, at 13:51, "Jim Noseworthy" >>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Is there a better option out there rather than Safari for WEB >>>>>>>>>>> browsing? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> <--- Mac Access At Mac Access Dot Net ---> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To reply to this post, please address your message to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You can find an archive of all messages posted to the Mac-Access >>>>>>>>>>> forum at the list's public Mail Archive: >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/>. >>>>>>>>>>> Subscribe to the list's RSS feed from: >>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/maillist.xml> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> As the Mac Access Dot Net administrators, we always strive to >>>>>>>>>>> ensure that the Mac-Access E-Mal list remains malware, spyware, >>>>>>>>>>> Trojan, virus and worm-free. 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