Just a couple of points. 

1. 

I tried the suggestion made by Ms Ann no dice. 

2. 

As another list member has pointed out a simple email informing people that 
they are back online would have sufficed.  

Please don't make excuses for Gordon's incompetence. 

Simply harvesting everyone's email address and receiving  multiple copies of 
every email that is sent to the server clattering up once inbox is absolutely 
unacceptable! 

I have tried numerous things including trying to contact these administrators 
via Skype. 

They either don't want to take my call or they keep going off line. 

Sadam Ahmed 

Sent from my iPhone 

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> On 26 May 2015, at 12:41 am, Glenn / Lenny <glenner...@cableone.net> wrote:
> 
> These people wanting to leave the list might feel differently if they knew 
> what I went through the eyes-free list with with GoogleGroups.
> For those who don't know, the eyes-free list is for Android users.
> It gets at least 200 messages a day, and it is unmoderated.
> My ISP had just switched to using the gMail server when I subscribed, so my 
> eMail went in as my user name at gMail.com.
> Then I tried to unsubscribe and the unsubscribe commands did not recognize me 
> because my eMails going to the list showed up as from my ISP, @cableone.net
> When I complained to the list, someone there was able to set me up so I could 
> not post to the list, but I was still getting the messages.
> For a couple years, I just filtered them to my trash.
> Then my ISP came back with providing their own eMail server, and I was put 
> into IMAP, and my filters no longer worked.
> Their web interface was AJAX, rather than standard HTML, by default, which 
> made it unusable by a Blind user.
> So after all that, I feel like the folks complaining here have little to 
> complain about.
> Glenn
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Christopher-Mark Gilland
> To: mac-access@mac-access.net
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 9:31 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
> 
> I definitely agree 150% that the language is uncalled for!  That said 
> however, I feel his frustration.
>  
> Chris.
>  
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Eileen
> To: mac-access@mac-access.net
> Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 10:14 AM
> Subject: Re: [Mac-Access]: enough!
> 
> Okay!!! Now, does foul language have to come into play? There's no room for 
> that. I'm just going through all the numerous email traffic in my email 
> account and Ann Roberts gave a corrected email address that will take you off 
> list. And another thing, you try running a list serve when working full-time. 
> I don't see you volunteering. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones that only to 
> receive these list postings once. Maybe it's you that didn't follow the 
> monitors instructions from the get go when he needed to migrate to a new 
> server and start from stratch. It's folks like you that puts a bad taste in 
> someone elses mouth that values this list serve.
> 
> Good day and good riddens to you.
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On May 24, 2015, at 11:31 PM, sadam ahmed <sadamahmed1...@icloud.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Well said. 
>> 
>> Even when the list was active I personally did not find it very helpful at 
>> all. 
> 
>> But this is getting fucking ridiculous. 
>> 
>> I have tried everything and I can't seem to unsubscribe. 
>> 
>> Receiving. Multiple. Emails. Is no fun at all! 
>> 
>> Frankly you should be ashamed of yourself Mr Gordon. 
>> 
>> Blatantly spamming people's email addresses with this nonsense.  
>> 
>> Not respecting or listening to people's requests to be removed from this 
>> stupid list.  
>> 
>> Messages bouncing when I ask to be removed. 
>> 
>> A horrendous web interface. 
>> 
>> To be honest there are far better alternatives available to Mac-access. 
>> 
>> For the last time please remove me from this sorry excuse for a list. 
>> 
>> Sadam Ahmed 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone 
>> 
>> -- 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On 25 May 2015, at 3:22 pm, Jay Rufo <jayr...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Administrator,
>>>  just because you decided to start this list again is no excuse to take all
>>> the email addresses you had and suddenly start to send email's/start the
>>> list again. Sending people an email stating the list was available would
>>> have been sufficient. Should this have happened then folks that were willing
>>> could have signed up again. Secondarily, you obviously have no idea how to
>>> conduct a list hence the multiple repeated emails. Shouldn't you have tested
>>> this? Are you insane? Good god.
>>> 
>>>  I enjoy the fact you want to have a list and share knowledge. We all need
>>> that. I don't clap my hands in terms of how you went about it. You strike me
>>> as someone who just got his Nintendo        back!
>>> 
>>>  That said, I wish you well with this list but please take me off it
>>> promptly. Since this list has been on hiatus, I've figured out the apple
>>> operating system to my satisfaction.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Best,
>>> 
>>> Jay

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