on 11/20/02 4:42 PM, Darren at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Brian Futrell wrote:
> 
>> On Wed, 20 Nov 2002 14:38:32 +1100
>> Darren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Diablo is not a 3D game, and can use a standard video card
>> without difficulty.  I'm playing it on an Aptiva K6-233
>> machine now with built-in ATI video, and getting creamed on
>> level 10. :>  Quake 2 will play without 3D acceleration.
>> It looks crappy, but it works.
>> 
> 
> Yeah I know, both will play on the puny macintosh onboard vram god bless
> them.
> Blizzard and ID.
> 
>> Some Diablo CDs have both versions on it (I had one that
>> didn't, and have one now that does).  I was doing it to
>> test the card.
>> 
> 
> How far do you get? Are you trying to click through the title short
> movie which is historically resource hungry. I'm not sure the question
> goes for quake, kinda surprised you don't get further with quake, can
> you access the option screen or is it gone before before you get that
> far? Have you tried : RUN"path to diablo\diablo.exe" "-w" or any of the
> other command line options both games have available? Windowed mode may
> not be the best choice or there again?
> 
>> I have 95 also, OSR2 and 2.5.  I'll give those a try.
>> Maybe they will take care of the network problem. :>
>> 
> 
> I've had Aoe, Nox and Settlers 2 running under VPC, I remember diablo
> working but barely. All under Win95osr2 after throwing 98se, the joy of
> hardfiles. If you can find the floppy set :) its quite amazing how bare
> the system can be, no networking, no IE ect. adding networking isn't
> very hard and is a easy download.
> Is that Gregg I can hear saying no no no? ;)
> 
>> I'll also try installing DirectX 8 to see if that takes
>> care of it.
>> 
> 
> Dont know what directX 7.0 is really like, 8 goes on to everything - bar
> the floppy installed win95.
> What did you finally get going, YDL or MDK, out of interest?
> 

As far as I know, the particular PC Compatibility card I have has 2MB of
VRAM on it, and an ATI Mach64 graphics chip on it.

Both Diablo and Quake 2 will install, but when actually trying to start the
programs the computer restarts.  No title screen or anything else for that
matter.  I have not tried any command line switches on them.

While I wouldn't run 98SE under VPC 2.1 or 3 on this 9500/200 - it's like
running 95 on a 486 as it is, it's not too bad with a physical Pentium
166mhz with 80MB of real RAM.  Too bad I can't get it to work with physical
DOS partitions-just to see if it runs any faster.  I have the CDs for 95B
and C, so I'm not too worried about installing Windows.  I've got the
floppies buried somewhere in my large collection of software.

The network problem is concerning the drivers.  I get an error 7903 or
something like that before the graphical interface loads.  I'll have to look
at it again to confirm the number.  I'm running MacOS 8.1 on the 8500, with
PCSetup 1.6.4.  I've tried 2.1.7, but it has given me all sorts of fits.

I've been rather busy with tax season coming upon us (I'm finishing some
magnetic media W-2 and 1099-MISC reporting software at work-fun fun fun!),
so I haven't had much time to play with either YDL or Mandrake.  So far I've
had more success with YDL.  I'll try again later when I get another 4GB
drive to play with. :>  I have both x500 machines the way I want them, and
don't want to erase them to try a Linux variant that may not work.

Have you tried RealPC 1.1/1.09?  While it seems faster in some respects than
VPC 2.1 on this machine, it is now discontinued.  I'm glad I only paid $30
for it.  If you go to FWB's site, they have partnered with Connectix to
offer VPC 5 with DOS for $79.  Not too bad. :>

Brian Futrell
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