On 25 Jan 2004 at 19:14, Darren wrote: > Michael Dawe wrote: > > > Personally, I don't think that the "12 inch 166MHz P card" will run > > in a Beige G3 or later. Why? My theory is the type of RAM used on the > > DOS card is meaninless to the beige G3, - 5 volt EDO or FPN RAM as > > opposed to the beige G3's 3 volt PC1xx SDRAM - the electronic > > componants on the card will most likely also be incompatible. > > Hi Michael. > I wouldn't know for sure either but shouldn't the dos card > be self contained to a large extent and basicly ignored by > the host system.
Hello Darren You're probably right, have been trying to do a bit more research and have found a few references to the DOS card working in G3's and G4's including b/w and later. Most references were about problems they were having though - but some were saying they run fine... There may only be one way for me to find out for sure, I guess :) None [I've read so far] have been detailed enough, it would be nice to find something more indepth along these lines at <http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/> or similar. > > The *other* "12 inch PR 166 card" pulled from a 4400/200, 7220/200 > > only, can be made to work apparently, because the RAM [and cards] > > voltage is the same, and by using the "I Wish I Were..." extension > > hack... > > Did you notice that the 12 inch 166P also works in a > 4400/7220 as does the 12 inch 166 performance rated PR which > was made for the 4400/7220. Yes, but not the reverse. - I also saw the warning messages from Apple about not trying cards designed specifically for the 4400/7220 in *any* other Mac.... > "There are users that have successfully installed their pc > cards in Beige G3's, but you cant install them Blue and > White G3's (something about power consumption)..." just > found it interesting since the beige wasn't supplied with > the greatest of PSU's. I think you know my views on beige G3 PSU's :) > Apple says the 100mhz cards are unsupported on Beige G3 > while people report the 166 card working if you use a floppy > driver (I'd guess that means extension) on a floppyless B&W > > http://www.network54.com/Forum/30406?it=0 has quite a bit of > info about Dos support and goes back a fair way. Thanks for that link, I'd been there before rummaging around but had forgotten about it. This is about the only source I've seen in regards to these cards working in G3/G4s but the info is lacking. > 1.6.4 only supports up to OS8.1 > 2.1.7 replaces 1.6.4 with only a couple of files left from > 1.6.4 in the macs system folder, I think these where the > PC-Clipboard and Print Spooler, something like that anyway. > Otherwise its a full replacement and nothing else from 1.6.4 > is needed. > I'm lucky to have never tried the versions between 1.6.4 and > 2.1.7 as they seemed to have had some bugs > The PC side is easy and its not neccarsary to update, you > can just leave 1.6.4. > > If you have a OS8 cd you might upgrade your OT to 1.1.3. > It's a interesting approach as I would have been more > worried about OT than PcSetup. Good to know it works. That's a good idea, and may try it yet. OT 1.1.1/1.1.2 was easy as it's an independent install from an OS install, although the OT 1.1.2 I have needs to be installed over 1.1.1 first, there may be a full installer out there, I haven't really looked. Cheers, One of the [other] Mikes :) -- Mac-N-DOS is sponsored by <http://lowendmac.com/> and... / Buy books, CDs, videos, and more from Amazon.com \ / <http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home/lowendmac> \ Support Low End Mac <http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html> Mac-N-DOS list info: <http://lowendmac.com/lists/mac-n-dos.shtml> --> AOL users, remove "mailto:"; Send list messages to: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To unsubscribe, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For digest mode, email: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subscription questions: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Archive: <http://www.mail-archive.com/mac-n-dos%40mail.maclaunch.com/> Using a Mac? Free email & more at Applelinks! http://www.applelinks.com
