FYI, from my side, I provide "randomly hacked versions" because I have people willing to test, and see our progress.

This is extremely positive buzz, but not a correct solution, I agree.

Yes, but this is something completely different from what I wanted to say.

Do you have an estimated date for aquavcl01 integration ?

I think I'll have more data once all fixes that affects regular X11 as well (e.g. osxmodule.cxx and locale changes) are QAed for X11 and *integrated*.

we have continual stream of new issues but we do not handle them properly

Can you please describe more completely what you mean ? This is interesting to write more about that.

Right now, only builders have access to their own builds (because we do not have development snapshots).
People will report bugs in the latest version we provided.
Bugs are repeated, duplicated.

Once we have latest development snapshots channel and users know about it, the stream of bugs will be slower and better.

Once we have the development snapshots, other group of people (do you remember people who wrote that they want to test aqua?) can test and *handle* issues.

Don't forget, we are volunteers, not paid.

You still repeat it, but it doesn't make sense. Only as an excuse. But I do not care who or why failed. I only care about how to make it better. For me this information is irrelevant.

All in all, we should get ready to be just yet-another-porting project of OpenOffice.org project.

We already are. Why this statement ?

We are getting there, but we are not there yet. I do not remember any port publishing "randomly hacked" version, e.g. ;-)
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Pavel Janík


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