Hi *,

On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Gallomimia <gallomi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> First of all, why are there separate versions of OOo for PPC and Intel
> macs? Can't a Universal Binary be created?

Yes. The universal binary would
* be huge to download
* very tricky to build in the first place (OOo uses a couple of
external modules and also bridges to various other languages
* building then also would be slow (as ccache doesn't allow multiple
arch in one compile.

Sum up: Not worth the effort. If the build could produce universal
builds, then probably just to extract the individual architectures to
create the installsets/to cross compile on fast intel machines for PPC
(where building is slooow)

Universal binaries are nice when the download then is 10 to 20 MB, but
not when you have to download more than 400 MB.

> Why is the version 3.1.1
> not at release status for PPC while it is for intel?

Because nobody did QA on them.

> It's been 2
> months... And the language specific builds on p2p distribution are
> french and german but not english.

Because french and german native-lang teams did QA the version and did
officially approve them for distribution on the main mirror network.

> No spanish? I digress.

Spanish language project did not approve the PPC build (very likely
because they didn't QA the build). Easy as that.

> The requirements for the mac version on the main website are clearly
> wrong.

URL please

> I downloaded a Release Candidate of 3.1.1 for PPC and installed it

Never saw this symptom on PPC here... Also no problems with printing.

> I would like to volunteer my machine for any purposes needed.

"only" your machine, but also your time?
In the latter case, you could do the release-tests for your language
(spanish?) so that the build can be officially released.

> I can
> grant ssh access, and run a tinderbox client. I can test and build,

Ah, test and build - that would be great.

> whatever's needed. I will give the machine specs.
>
> PowerMac Quicksilver
> Model Name:     Power Mac G4
> Model Identifier:       PowerMac3,5
> Processor Name: PowerPC G4  (2.1)
> Processor Speed:        800 MHz
> Number Of CPUs: 2
> L2 Cache (per CPU):     256 KB
> L3 Cache (per CPU):     2 MB
> Memory: 1.25 GB
> Bus Speed:      133 MHz
> Boot ROM Version:       4.2.5f1
>
> Running Leopard 10.5.8

And that is also nice have 10.4 on PPC.

And for this combination, I already have one specific issue to test in mind:
http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=92926

The patch works on 10.4/PPC, but not on 10.[56]/Intel - having a 10.5
PPC would allow to check whether it is an intel problem or a problem
with [Snow] Leopard.
In both cases the cfrunloop is clrealy in another thread than the Java
stuff, but still it complains on the intel machines about awt and main
thread....

> Developer Tools 3.1.4

> It is on 24/7 with a reboot every few days. The CPU time is roughly 75% 
> wasted.

Do you have enough bandwidth to run a buildbot (i.e. tinderbox
equivalent that can upload installsets to the botmaster when
requested? (tinderbox does only send the gzipped build log via mail,
so doesn't need much bandwidth)

ssh-access to the devs would also help - as the devs at Sun only have
intel macs at their hands and often cannot help when there's a
ppc-specific problem (fortunately doesn't happed that often, but
still...)

ciao
Christian

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