On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 4:06 AM, Christian Lohmaier <cl...@openoffice.org> wrote: > Hi *, > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Gallomimia <gallomi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> First of all, why are there separate versions of OOo for PPC and Intel >> macs? Can't a Universal Binary be created? > > Yes. The universal binary would > * be huge to download > * very tricky to build in the first place (OOo uses a couple of > external modules and also bridges to various other languages > * building then also would be slow (as ccache doesn't allow multiple > arch in one compile. > > Sum up: Not worth the effort. If the build could produce universal > builds, then probably just to extract the individual architectures to > create the installsets/to cross compile on fast intel machines for PPC > (where building is slooow) > > Universal binaries are nice when the download then is 10 to 20 MB, but > not when you have to download more than 400 MB. >
Wow. Okay. Good reason. >> Why is the version 3.1.1 >> not at release status for PPC while it is for intel? > > Because nobody did QA on them. > >> It's been 2 >> months... And the language specific builds on p2p distribution are >> french and german but not english. > > Because french and german native-lang teams did QA the version and did > officially approve them for distribution on the main mirror network. > >> No spanish? I digress. > > Spanish language project did not approve the PPC build (very likely > because they didn't QA the build). Easy as that. > Am I to understand that each and every language, on each and every architecture, requires a separate tester for each and every release? >> The requirements for the mac version on the main website are clearly >> wrong. > > URL please http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/source/sys_reqs_30.html It might be a nice benefit to set up anchors to auto-scroll to a given section of this page. Not this department but if you're going to go ask them... > >> I downloaded a Release Candidate of 3.1.1 for PPC and installed it > > Never saw this symptom on PPC here... Also no problems with printing. > Pretty sure this icon is only available under 10.5 and not 10.4 >> I would like to volunteer my machine for any purposes needed. > > "only" your machine, but also your time? > In the latter case, you could do the release-tests for your language > (spanish?) so that the build can be officially released. > Yes my time as well! I sort of thought that was implied by my posting to this list. My language is english. I asked after spanish simply because it is the most spoken language in the world at roughly 1/3 the population. Seemed like it would be more important than French or German. I can see now that the reason those are the only versions available because of a lack of man-power having appropriate hardware. Perhaps a VNC can be set up to allow a language specific tester to use their language version on someone else's hardware? >> I can >> grant ssh access, and run a tinderbox client. I can test and build, > > Ah, test and build - that would be great. > >> whatever's needed. I will give the machine specs. >> >> PowerMac Quicksilver >> Model Name: Power Mac G4 >> Model Identifier: PowerMac3,5 >> Processor Name: PowerPC G4 (2.1) >> Processor Speed: 800 MHz >> Number Of CPUs: 2 >> L2 Cache (per CPU): 256 KB >> L3 Cache (per CPU): 2 MB >> Memory: 1.25 GB >> Bus Speed: 133 MHz >> Boot ROM Version: 4.2.5f1 >> >> Running Leopard 10.5.8 > > And that is also nice have 10.4 on PPC. > 10.4 was a horrible operating system and I wouldn't wish it upon my worst enemy. Nor will I touch it again with a 30 foot pole. I just got leopard running and I will never look back. > And for this combination, I already have one specific issue to test in mind: > http://qa.openoffice.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=92926 > I will be taking a look at this bug for sure. > The patch works on 10.4/PPC, but not on 10.[56]/Intel - having a 10.5 > PPC would allow to check whether it is an intel problem or a problem > with [Snow] Leopard. > In both cases the cfrunloop is clrealy in another thread than the Java > stuff, but still it complains on the intel machines about awt and main > thread.... > >> Developer Tools 3.1.4 > >> It is on 24/7 with a reboot every few days. The CPU time is roughly 75% >> wasted. > > Do you have enough bandwidth to run a buildbot (i.e. tinderbox > equivalent that can upload installsets to the botmaster when > requested? (tinderbox does only send the gzipped build log via mail, > so doesn't need much bandwidth) > > ssh-access to the devs would also help - as the devs at Sun only have > intel macs at their hands and often cannot help when there's a > ppc-specific problem (fortunately doesn't happed that often, but > still...) > I will look into getting in contact with said devs to grant them ssh access. I should have plenty of bandwidth to be sending logs. I'm sure a 1mbps upstream is enough, shared with the rest of my house I hope it won't interfere. Perhaps I can cap it. > ciao > Christian > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: mac-unsubscr...@porting.openoffice.org > For additional commands, e-mail: mac-h...@porting.openoffice.org > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mac-unsubscr...@porting.openoffice.org For additional commands, e-mail: mac-h...@porting.openoffice.org
