Hello Henri,
On Jul 12, 2004, at 12:32 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>
>
> On Sun, 11 Jul 2004, Jerry Yeager wrote:
>
>> These tend to be designed specifically for using windoze components,
>> such as ActiveX gizmos that you have to have windoze. Very, very, bad,
>> bad programming.
>
> Harsh to call it bad programming. It's usually a business choice.
> Though
> often the choice is to embrace the entire MS stack and not hire anyone
> who
> can survive away from their MCSE certification.
>
I do not think it is being all that harsh. Certainly bugs are in
software and can only be found and removed by testing. That is one
thing. But assuming the World Wide Web runs only on windoze is another.
After all, HTML (which was not developed to be an extension of .Net)
provides very graceful ways for a site to check to see if the browser
can run embedded content and act accordingly it if cannot, for example:
<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="language of choce">
Do some cool stuff
</SCRIPT>
<NOSCRIPT>
Oops we are sorry, this page you are visiting has some cool stuff we
would like to show you, but you have to turn scripting on first.
</NOSCRIPT>
is pretty easy to do. The <object></object> thingies and other
constructs are similar. All one has to do is use the w3.org specs for
HTML, CSS, etc. for the web standards to be compliant.
Crashing a browser that cannot display something, to me, reeks of bad
programming.
>> This might be enough. CERT issued a very serious recommendation that
>
> DHS (Dept Homeland Security, never sure how many others might think
> it's a
> large FedEx-like company in the UK) have also issued a warning not to
> use
> IE. Almost enough to make you feel sorry for MS. Almost.
>
Ehh (smile) They brought it themselves.
>> For the record, there are some others out there.
>>
>> Safari,
>> Camino
>> Foxfire
>> Mozilla
>> Opera
>
> Also OmniWeb, which is still alive and kicking and are close to
> releasing
> a new version. Looks like they've thrown quite a few new ideas in.
>
> http://www.omnigroup.com/applications/omniweb/5/
>
> It's payware, but often the demo vesion is completely usable.
>
> Hen
>
Forgot about that one, thanks for the reminder that is still alive.
Jerry
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