Hello Alex,

Have you turned on Safari's debug menu which lets you use it to tell 
your bank's server that Safari is Windows IE 6.x ?

There is a new version of Safari (V1.3 -- the current is V1.2.2) that 
is being tested and should be released very soon (runs on Panther) that 
has a long list of improvements, including ones that address issues you 
are raising, not to mention setting new speed records. Hopefully 
tomorrow I or someone else will be able to give you some of the 
differences between all of the browsers. But quickly, all of them 
support tabbed browsing, are speedy, block pop-ups, feed the pets on 
time and clean the rings around the bathroom sink (smile). Also 
tomorrow i will try to give you some reasons that your bank might want 
to ditch using M$ servers for web stuff.



                                Jerry

p.s. if you want to use a gui to enable the Debug menu, get Safari 
Enhancer from versiontracker.com (it is free)
or fire up the Terminal App and do the following:

To turn on Safari's Debug Menu, Quit Safari, launch Terminal and type:
defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1
Launch Safari and the Debug Menu will be active.

To turn off Safari's Debug Menu, Quit Safari, launch Terminal and type:
defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 0
Launch Safari and the Debug Menu will be inactive.

Once the debug menu is on, you can tell Safari to send out the signal 
to the server that it is IE running on windows.

On Jul 04, 2004, at 11:29 PM, Alex Whitman wrote:

> I'm ready to try a new browser, but I'm confused. What is the 
> difference between Mozilla, Camino, and Firefox? I don't care about 
> IRC chat, and at this point I don't need HTML editing - both included 
> with Mozilla 1.7. I do need pop-up blocking, tabbed browsing, and it 
> would be nice if my new browser played well with Mail, AddressBook, 
> and synchronizing bookmarks between my 2 machines via iSync. Safari 
> 1.2.2 and IE 5.2 choke my bank's internet bill-paying (though they say 
> they won't support anything but IE on Windows, so I may be S.O.L. on 
> that no matter what browser I end up with), and I am having trouble 
> with some long pages with lots of highly-formatted text loading 
> correctly in Safari.
>
> I'm running 10.3.4 on both an iMac and an iBook.
>
> Thanks!
> Alex Whitman
>
>
> On Jul 4, 2004, at 5:40 AM, Robert Kersting wrote:
>
>> Marta, et al:
>>
>> I've been using Firefox for quite a while now and I love it, current 
>> version is 0.9.1. It's available for download at 
>> http://www.mozilla.org.
>>
>> It's fast, stable and loaded with features and, I know you guys get 
>> annoyed when I say this, but best of all, it's NOT a Microsoft 
>> product. Firefox is an open-source application. Meaning tens or even 
>> hundreds of programmers are working on it simultaneously. The "bug" 
>> and "feature" reports at mozilla.org is quite interesting. And for 
>> those of us who have to work on two or more platforms, Firefox is 
>> available for Mac, Windows and Linux.
>>
>> As for features, tabbed browsing is probably my favorite feature and 
>> it seems to work the best of the many browsers I've checked. If you 
>> haven't explored this little idea, you're missing a lot. Firefox also 
>> features a built-in Popup Blocker that works VERY well. It can also 
>> be customized with plug-ins and a number of themes are available. 
>> Best feature of all? It just works.
>>
>> Bear in mind that Firefox is a technology preview. That is, it's a 
>> work-in-progress.
>>
>> Firefox also works seamlessly with it's companion email program 
>> Thunderbird, another open-source product. Current version is 0.7.1. 
>> (And since nearly everyone judges a book by it's cover, Thunderbird 
>> has a rockin' logo.)
>>
>> Mozilla,org also offers another browser named Camino. Based on the 
>> same chassis, it is also very cool, very stable and very fast 
>> featuring most of the same features as Firefox.
>>
>> I'd urge everyone to try it. Safari is fine, but it seems stagnant to 
>> me.
>>
>> rob
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Marta Edie wrote:
>>
>>> Has anybody used the new browser from Mozilla "Firefox"? I hear it 
>>> is superior in many ways. Please list some of its features and 
>>> whether it is worthwhile to download it. It is freeware.
>>> Marta
>>>
>>>
>>>
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