Jerry, where is the Safari "debug" menu?  Now I do have the "send 
window friendly  attachments " in my attachments window. ( Panther 
user) What does the mail do? send the attachment with a .doc extension? 
What does "window-friendly actually mean?  ----I need that debug window 
badly. The BBT Bank will not open in Safari, only in explorer. They 
told me they are working on it. I hate to turn on explorer just to 
check this one account.
  Part 2 : Now I upgraded my Mozilla to the latest version, I had no 
trouble doing that. But with firefox - well------- It downloads just 
fine, but then there is no installer , or better, the installer is 
empty. After making at least 6 attempts, I gave up last night, made 
three more attempts this morning, however, what I have on my desktop 
won't open to be installed. All I can get is the big firefox icon. 
There is a warning on the download page that it might take longer 
because of great demand ---- but-----
Marta
On Jul 5, 2004, at 3:00, Jerry Yeager wrote:

> Hello Alex,
>
> Have you turned on Safari's debug menu which lets you use it to tell 
> your bank's server that Safari is Windows IE 6.x ?
>
> There is a new version of Safari (V1.3 -- the current is V1.2.2) that 
> is being tested and should be released very soon (runs on Panther) 
> that has a long list of improvements, including ones that address 
> issues you are raising, not to mention setting new speed records. 
> Hopefully tomorrow I or someone else will be able to give you some of 
> the differences between all of the browsers. But quickly, all of them 
> support tabbed browsing, are speedy, block pop-ups, feed the pets on 
> time and clean the rings around the bathroom sink (smile). Also 
> tomorrow i will try to give you some reasons that your bank might want 
> to ditch using M$ servers for web stuff.
>
>
>
>                               Jerry
>
> p.s. if you want to use a gui to enable the Debug menu, get Safari 
> Enhancer from versiontracker.com (it is free)
> or fire up the Terminal App and do the following:
>
> To turn on Safari's Debug Menu, Quit Safari, launch Terminal and type:
> defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 1
> Launch Safari and the Debug Menu will be active.
>
> To turn off Safari's Debug Menu, Quit Safari, launch Terminal and type:
> defaults write com.apple.Safari IncludeDebugMenu 0
> Launch Safari and the Debug Menu will be inactive.
>
> Once the debug menu is on, you can tell Safari to send out the signal 
> to the server that it is IE running on windows.
>
> On Jul 04, 2004, at 11:29 PM, Alex Whitman wrote:
>
>> I'm ready to try a new browser, but I'm confused. What is the 
>> difference between Mozilla, Camino, and Firefox? I don't care about 
>> IRC chat, and at this point I don't need HTML editing - both included 
>> with Mozilla 1.7. I do need pop-up blocking, tabbed browsing, and it 
>> would be nice if my new browser played well with Mail, AddressBook, 
>> and synchronizing bookmarks between my 2 machines via iSync. Safari 
>> 1.2.2 and IE 5.2 choke my bank's internet bill-paying (though they 
>> say they won't support anything but IE on Windows, so I may be S.O.L. 
>> on that no matter what browser I end up with), and I am having 
>> trouble with some long pages with lots of highly-formatted text 
>> loading correctly in Safari.
>>
>> I'm running 10.3.4 on both an iMac and an iBook.
>>
>> Thanks!
>> Alex Whitman
>>
>>
>> On Jul 4, 2004, at 5:40 AM, Robert Kersting wrote:
>>
>>> Marta, et al:
>>>
>>> I've been using Firefox for quite a while now and I love it, current 
>>> version is 0.9.1. It's available for download at 
>>> http://www.mozilla.org.
>>>
>>> It's fast, stable and loaded with features and, I know you guys get 
>>> annoyed when I say this, but best of all, it's NOT a Microsoft 
>>> product. Firefox is an open-source application. Meaning tens or even 
>>> hundreds of programmers are working on it simultaneously. The "bug" 
>>> and "feature" reports at mozilla.org is quite interesting. And for 
>>> those of us who have to work on two or more platforms, Firefox is 
>>> available for Mac, Windows and Linux.
>>>
>>> As for features, tabbed browsing is probably my favorite feature and 
>>> it seems to work the best of the many browsers I've checked. If you 
>>> haven't explored this little idea, you're missing a lot. Firefox 
>>> also features a built-in Popup Blocker that works VERY well. It can 
>>> also be customized with plug-ins and a number of themes are 
>>> available. Best feature of all? It just works.
>>>
>>> Bear in mind that Firefox is a technology preview. That is, it's a 
>>> work-in-progress.
>>>
>>> Firefox also works seamlessly with it's companion email program 
>>> Thunderbird, another open-source product. Current version is 0.7.1. 
>>> (And since nearly everyone judges a book by it's cover, Thunderbird 
>>> has a rockin' logo.)
>>>
>>> Mozilla,org also offers another browser named Camino. Based on the 
>>> same chassis, it is also very cool, very stable and very fast 
>>> featuring most of the same features as Firefox.
>>>
>>> I'd urge everyone to try it. Safari is fine, but it seems stagnant 
>>> to me.
>>>
>>> rob
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marta Edie wrote:
>>>
>>>> Has anybody used the new browser from Mozilla "Firefox"? I hear it 
>>>> is superior in many ways. Please list some of its features and 
>>>> whether it is worthwhile to download it. It is freeware.
>>>> Marta
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>
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