Can we get back to what this mailing list is set up for....that is, dealing with Mac info. If you want to have a confrontation, you are welcome to email each other direct. The rest of us Macaholics would like to hear more about Mac!
> From: KR'sListMail <listmail at electrablue.com> > Reply-To: <macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> > Date: Wed, 4 Aug 2004 18:36:43 -0400 > To: <macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> > Subject: MacGroup: Re: Copying > > Ward, > > In response to your post, you wrote > >> From: Ward Oldham <woldham at insightbb.com> >> Subject: Re: MacGroup: Re: Copying >> >> But to slap someone down, bloody their nose and tell them they're >> uninformed >> and totally ignorant is uncalled for! >> > > You say I don't have the right to protest someone stealing my or my > clients work? > Just, WHO is sticking whose nose in it? > > When someone makes jokes about stealing entertainment artists' works, > your clients works, and even goes so far to describe methods and ways > to steal one's own work? I am supposed to sit silently by and smile > like a fool? His post made me FURIOUS. I couldn't believe he had to > the gaul, the nerve to argue with me about my artwork and my creative > property rights here like he did. > > As Henri knows, I am an Entertainment Artist and Architectural > Designer. Along the past twenty years, I have worked for Warner, > Disney, Universal, HBO, Paramount, Universal, Ripley, Blockbuster, > Virgin, and a handful of other entertainment companies. I have sold or > copyrighted my work to my clients. My work appears on studio CDs, > Films, DVDs etc. I make my LIVING selling conceptual ideas for media > projects Theme parks, Stores, CDs, and DVDs. We aren't talking about a > far away planet here, with people he doesn't know. We are talking about > MY life's work, and MY Clients who have bought and paid for my work. > > And so, here is Henri, telling people on this list, about ways to copy > and steal some of my DVD works!!! Right in front of me??? What nerve! > > Ward, If someone stepped in your store, smashed out the windows, and > stole YOUR goods, and threatened your industry 24 hours a day, with > threats of theft? How would you feel about that? And then if the guy, > strutted around and talked about doing these things to your Clients, > and taking your goods, and using them and doing so, RIGHT in front of > your face??? And then went on and even explained to others here, ways > that they could break into your store, next week and steal again and > again. And then argued with you how all of this is is OK, and how > stealing your work is "their Right"??? And to go on and on, how it is > COOL and FUNNY stealing your work is? > > So given this truth, WHO Is pushing WHOSE buttons here? I would like > to see how YOU would react, Ward, if someone made jokes about stealing > from your friends, clients and vendors work like that, right in front > of you! > > I don't find his comments funny, at all- nor his guidance good or right > to the people on this list. And don't feel a bit sorry for speaking my > mind about his bad behaviour and words, in due concern. I only wish I > had spoken up sooner, and expressed that I felt What he is doing is > WRONG, and I DON'T LIKE IT. > > So here is my final word on this subject: > It is not Henri's RIGHT to reproduce MY copyrighted works or > the content on my studio clients DVDs. > Not now, not ever. Period. > > And if he does do so? > I DON'T want to know about it, not here, not anywhere. > Otherwise, I will be obligated to report it. Understand? > > I am filled with pity after listening to some of you people. > How insensitive you are, how full of self-rightiousness to > do whatever you want. Such bad karma... > > Obviously, after reading the latest posts, I do see how some of you > feel it is very ok to steal a creative person's work and use it however > you wish, without asking for the owners permission, or paying for the > right. > > I DO not agree--and obviously we will not ever agree on that issue. So, > I don't want to argue with you anymore about who my art work > belongs to. I Know who it belongs to, and I don't feel any need to > prove it here. > > As far as I am concerned, this is the End of this UGLY Discussion. Good > riddance! > > Yours, > Kay > > > > > > > | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will > | be July 27. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. > | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> > | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup> | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be July 27. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>. | List posting address: <mailto:macgroup at erdos.math.louisville.edu> | List Web page: <http://erdos.math.louisville.edu/macgroup>
