Dear All, I've been sitting here quietly for the past (almost) 2 months reading and absorbing from this list. Forgive ME if I'm incorrect but I thought MacGroup's purpose was to help fellow Macintosh users as well as provide valuable information. As well, my guess would have been to avoid, rather than promote controversy. I'll have a question for y'all coming up but in the meantime, I don't think any of you really care what I think about Al Gore! Thanks to those of you who are constantly helping others with questions. Sure hope this other stuff can be put to rest quickly. I appreciate being a part of this list and hope this doesn't offend anyone (as a prior post or 2 have done). Best regards,
Jeff Slyn, Owner SLYN Systems & Peripherals (502) 426-5469 serving Kentuckiana clients 7 days a week since 1985! On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 00:59:55 -0500 "Bill Holt" <billholt at iglou.com> writes: > > > > Bill, that is offensive and calls for an apology. > > Allan Atherton > > The hell it does, Allen. > > You may be offended, if you chose, by my reference to some of Al's > loonier > positions. But it's your choice, and I see no reason for you to > apologize > for it. > > I'm offended by Al Gore worship and the applause he's received > because he > joined the board at Apple. But it's my choice to be offended, and > I'm not > about to apologize for that either. > > BTW, the joke is not that Al said he invented the Internet. The > real joke > is that such a statement is so obviously silly that no-one with a > three > digit IQ believed it could be seriously said. A verbal faux pas, > perhaps, > but no more serious than the Saturday Night Live News skit. > > However, there are a bunch of people who jumped to Al's defense > against this > "charge," when none was needed, because they assumed that the people > passing > it on with a smile were simple-minded enough to believe it. So tell > me, who > should be offended; the person "accused" of saying and meaning > something so > silly that it's unbelievable, or the person who's accused of > believing it? > > > > > I have never considered it up-lifting to belittle another > person. > > > > George Yankey > > > Me either, George, but for better or worse, speech that attempts to > belittle > politicians is an American tradition. Look around and see how some > people > have attempted to belittle the President since he took office - to > their > considerable discredit. But rather than belittling Al, I was > referring to > what I believe to be some of his actual loony positions as loony > positions. > That's calling it as I see it; describing not belittling. As a > politician, > he is what he proposes and the only person who can effectively > belittle him > is himself. > > How all of this relates to the Mac is that it gives the anti-Mac > people a > little more emotional ammunition to belittle the platform. And > there, we > are talking about literal belittling. This is especially > frustrating when > you consider that Apple has been finally making some in-roads into > corporate > America with X-serve. I've been a Mac person since March of 1984 > and have > put a lot of effort into getting Macs into places they otherwise > would not > have been considered. It's a passion, I've never made a cent from > it. And > now, it may be a bit tougher to do. So far as I know, among all of > the > people I know who have demonstrated that they have the smarts and > guts to > run a successful, substantial business, there are no Al Gore > admirers. > > > Bill Holt ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com | The next meeting of the Louisville Computer Society will | be March 25. The LCS Web page is <http://www.kymac.org>.
