Lee, 

Just got home and have not yet digested your knowledge but I had to say a 
heartfelt thanks, my you are so kind and so good at having the answers to the 
difficult ones.


John


On Mar 2, 2010, at 9:16 PM, Lee Larson wrote:

> On Mar 2, 2010, at 11:47 AM, John Robinson wrote:
> 
>> What is the difference between a POP and a POPs?  I guess the "s" stands for 
>> secure but how do you get to that,  by using an ISP that allows for SSL?
> 
> Regular POP sends everything, including passwords, across the Net in clear 
> text. POPs encrypts everything. The 's' stands for 'secure'.
> 
>> A couple things here.  If the little "lock" is grayed, but still shows the 
>> certificate to be viewed is it safe? Possibly the lock icon is never dark?   
>> In the WiFI spots and you are indeed on an encrypted connection does that 
>> mean what you type is sent in a packet that is garbled (encrypted) until it 
>> gets to their site and then it is unscrambled?  On our end, what do we have 
>> to do in order to be sure we are sending encrypted, use and ISP that allows 
>> SSL?
> 
> At least in Safari, if the lock is there, then all traffic between your 
> computer and the server computer on the other end is encrypted. This means 
> it's nearly impossible for any 'man in the middle' to eavesdrop on your 
> traffic. If the lock isn't there, then the traffic is clear text and any man 
> in the middle can read it.
> 
> You have to do nothing to take advantage of a secure connection. If the site 
> you're visiting sends a security certificate to your browser, then your 
> browser and the site's server will do all the work in setting up the 
> encryption.
> 
> Your ISP has nothing to do with you talking to an encrypted Web page. The ISP 
> is nothing more than a conduit carrying bytes back and forth. All encryption 
> and decryption occurs at the endpoints.
> 
>> Aye.net does NOT use SSL, but Insight does so sending an email I would need 
>> to use the insight address rather than aye.net, but when I am in a coffee 
>> shop and jumping on their service I don't know if is secure (SSL)?  How do 
>> you know since you have your system set to Insight's specifications yet you 
>> are using another ISP?  I am confused on this as you can tell.
> 
> The way it works is this.
> 
> If somebody running a Web page wants to run a secure Web page, then they 
> obtain a security certificate, usually from one of the certificate 
> authorities like Verisign or GoDaddy. They add this security certificate to 
> their server. When you contact their page, the server sends out the public 
> part of the certificate and your browser uses this to set up secure 
> communication. Your ISP has nothing to do with it, unless they happen to own 
> the Web page.
> 
> Insight's Web mail is a secure site.
> 
>> So I guess you are using MobileMe for your mail service, and encrypting with 
>> the SSL, the same that Insight does.  I can start using either of these as I 
>> have both but I am still confused as to how that is secure if I am writing 
>> my daughter and she is on a service that does not have SSL.  I guess it 
>> would be secure leaving my machine in the coffee shop and getting to the 
>> servers at Insight or Apple, but then going from them to her ISP it would 
>> NOT be encrypted if her company didn't support SSL?
> 
> Many email providers support IMAPs. MobileMe and Google are among them. 
> Insight does not support IMAPs because I don’t  think Insight has any form of 
> IMAP support. That's the main reason I don’t  use Insight's mail, even though 
> I have a cable broadband connection. (I don’t  much like Web mail.)
> 
> With my family and several of my friends, I go one step more toward privacy; 
> I encrypt the email before it leaves my computer. Most modern email clients 
> support an encryption method called S/MIME. If you and the person with whom 
> you're corresponding have gone to the trouble of getting special S/MIME 
> certificates, then all the mail between the two of you is automatically 
> securely encrypted.
> 
> I also use the S/MIME certificate to sign my email, which you may have 
> noticed, if you use Apple's mail, because it tells you the message is signed. 
> Nobody can effectively impersonate me via email.
> 
> There are many ways to maintain some privacy and security on the Web with 
> simple encryption. If more of us took the time to learn how to do it, much of 
> the spam problem would go away.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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