Thanks. I'll give it a shot.

On Sep 7, 2012, at 9:25 AM, David M wrote:

> Don't know if this was addressed or if it can even help, but if you installed 
> Lion then you have a recovery partition on your hard drive. You won't see it 
> on the desktop, but if you restart the computer holding down the option key, 
> you can tab over to the "recovery hd". From there you can run disk utilities, 
> reinstall the os, etc.
> 
> 
> 
> From: Harry Jacobson-Beyer <[email protected]>
> To: Topics related to Apple and Macintosh computers 
> <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Friday, September 7, 2012 12:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [MacGroup] repairing disk and disk permissions
> 
> What does the internal drive have to do with the disk warrior disk not 
> booting?
> 
> On Sep 6, 2012, at 10:17 PM, John Robinson wrote:
> 
>> No expert but I would replace the drive.  They are very inexpensive and it 
>> isn't worth losing all your data.  DiskWarrior had been able to handle 
>> everything but a bad disk for me.
>> 
>> John
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 6, 2012, at 9:26 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>> 
>>> Here's an update:
>>> 
>>> I booted from the apple startup disk and repaired the disk. Part way 
>>> through disk utility stopped and said it could not repair the disk. I 
>>> needed to reformat the disk and reinstall my operating system.
>>> 
>>> Next I booted from a Disc Warrior disk and after several minutes I got the 
>>> message to restart the disk.
>>> 
>>> I booted an older version of the disk warrior and again nothing happened 
>>> and was told to restart. So I restarted from the Apple startup disk and 
>>> tried to repair the disk a second time BUT I got a message that the disk 
>>> was ok. I repaired permissions, and booted from the computer's hard drive 
>>> but the problem with my program still exists.
>>> 
>>> UGH!
>>> 
>>> Harry
>>> 
>>> On Sep 1, 2012, at 11:44 AM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I have a 5 year old MacBook pro. I am running Mac OS 10.7.4.
>>>> 
>>>> One of my programs, Sandvox ( a Mac Only website creator program by 
>>>> Karelia <http://www.karelia.com>) has over a hundred templates. I began 
>>>> creating a new website and chose a template (Telegraph Office) I had never 
>>>> used before. When I started to edit the home page the program crashed. The 
>>>> crash does not occur when I take the same steps with my current website 
>>>> templates.
>>>> 
>>>> Karelia offers excellent tech support so I emailed them about the problem. 
>>>> They had me email my console log and then the diagnostic logs. 
>>>> 
>>>> It took them a while to get back to me as they were having trouble finding 
>>>> the problem. 
>>>> 
>>>> Here is what they said:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks.  These files have given me some information, but not a lot to go 
>>>>> on.  It seems like the Mac is stuck at some low level trying to load in 
>>>>> something from the disk, or possibly over the network.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm wondering if there may be some kind of file corruption, possibly in 
>>>>> your copy of Sandvox (where the Telegraph Office design is embedded.)
>>>>> 
>>>>> You may want to run disk first aid on your system - this might solve the 
>>>>> problem.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To do this, open Disk Utility, in the Utilities folder in the 
>>>>> Applications folder.  Select your disk in the list at the left, and then 
>>>>> click the "First Aid" tab.  Click the help button (question mark) in the 
>>>>> lower left corner of the window for more details. (You may have to start 
>>>>> up from your Mac OS X installation disk and run Disk Utility from the 
>>>>> "Utilities" menu.)  Be sure to "Repair Disk" and not just "Repair Disk 
>>>>> Permissions."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Another suggestion, after this, is to download a fresh copy of Sandvox to 
>>>>> replace the copy you have there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'm *hoping* this will help!  Good luck!
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I ran the disk utility program, verify disk option, and received this 
>>>> message in a pop up window: 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>            This disk needs to be repaired using the Recovery HD. Restart 
>>>> your computer, holding down the 
>>>>            Command key and the R key until you see the Apple logo. 
>>>>            When the Mac OS X Utilities window appears, choose Disk Utility.
>>>> 
>>>> Within the disk first aid window I also received this message:
>>>> 
>>>>                    Invalid node structure
>>>>                    The volume Ethan could not be verified completely
>>>>                    Error: This disk needs to be repaired using the 
>>>> Recovery HD. Restart your computer, holding down the Command key and the R 
>>>> key until you see the Apple logo.
>>>>                    When the Mac OS X Utilities window appears, choose Disk 
>>>> Utility.
>>>> 
>>>> I am not sure what the "Recovery HD disk" is. I downloaded Lion from the 
>>>> app store and I can start up from that disk. I also have install DVD's for 
>>>> OS X 10.2 (which came with my computer), Panther (10.3) - 3 disks, Leopard 
>>>> (10.5.6), and Snow Leopard (10.6.3).
>>>> 
>>>> My questions are what is the Recovery HD and where do I get one or should 
>>>> I start up with the Lion dvd and, if so, will I be able to repair the disk 
>>>> and repair permissions?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Harry
>>>> 
>>>> Harry Jacobson-Beyer
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> www.harryjb.us
>>>> 
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