The gmail issue was fixed with an update. Sent from my iPhone
On Jan 11, 2014, at 5:45 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <[email protected]> wrote: >> Mavericks is solid, but you have to get used to some of the iOS-like >> features in things like file-handling and open-save dialog boxes. It's >> overly strict in associating files on iCloud with particular programs. >> Perhaps I’m an old fuddy-duddy, but I’m not yet convinced that the new >> file-less and directory-less paradigm is a better way to go. I tend to use >> DropBox and Google Drive a lot more than iCloud because I feel like I’m >> using my files the way I want to rather than adhering to the vision of some >> martinet in Cupertino. > > > > I do use Dropbox, and save 99% of my work there. When creating an iWorks in > snow leopard I navigate to where I want the file saved. I don't just save it > in iCloud. I assume that under mavericks I would be able to redirect iworks > files to dropbox as I do in Snow Leopard - is this true Lee? I too am a fuddy > duddy. > > >> The upgrades to Mail have some real problems with Gmail under IMAP. Gmail >> doesn't really do true IMAP, and Mail, which does do by-the-book IMAP quite >> well, sometimes get confused. Apple issued an update to address some of the >> issues, but my Gmail is still flakey. > > I don't use gmail but have set up my bellsouth (yahoo) account as an iMap > account per instructions Ed Wiser pointed me to several months ago. Will > Mavericks mess this up? > >> If you have an Airport router, Apple makes you use Airport Utility 6.3 >> instead of the older Airport Utility 5.6. This is bad because the newer AU >> is really dumbed-down and doesn't have nearly the power of the older one. >> It's again a case of a program being dumbed-down to work like the iOS >> counterpar > > > I have a uverse router/modem/landline so don’t know if my Mac uses the > Airport utility. > >> When you upgrade to Mavericks, Apple will also want you to upgrade all the >> iWorks stuff to get better iCloud support. The problem is the newer versions >> of Numbers, Keynote and Pages aren't as capable as the iWorks 09 versions >> they replace; they have the lesser features of the iOS incarnations. (If you >> have the older iWorks 09, Apple leaves them in place so you can continue to >> use them.) My problem is the new versions on the iPad only support files >> created on the dumbed-down versions, so I’m forced to convert over to the >> new Keynote in order to do presentations with the iPad. > > I don't use iWorks much - I am a NEO Office kind of guy. However I have > created a keynote presentation for my iPad which I use with some students I > work with. I haven't used it in a while so, after reading this I went to > dropbox, on my iPhone, opened my keynote file and while it shows up and I can > see the individual pages I cannot run a slide show. Interesting! (I tried to > open the folder with the keynote presentation on my iPad Mini (running the > same ios version as my iphone and get a message saying “Unable to load > folder.” > > Thanks for your response Lee. I guess I will have to think long and hard > about upgrading. > > Anyone else want to chime in on this? > > > Thanks to all who have responded so far. > > Harry > > >> On Jan 11, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Lee Larson <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On Jan 10, 2014, at 10:38 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I haven't yet upgraded to Mavericks. When I asked about it back in October >>> the consensus was, with a few exceptions, pretty good. Is that still the >>> consensus? >> >> Mavericks is solid, but you have to get used to some of the iOS-like >> features in things like file-handling and open-save dialog boxes. It's >> overly strict in associating files on iCloud with particular programs. >> Perhaps I’m an old fuddy-duddy, but I’m not yet convinced that the new >> file-less and directory-less paradigm is a better way to go. I tend to use >> DropBox and Google Drive a lot more than iCloud because I feel like I’m >> using my files the way I want to rather than adhering to the vision of some >> martinet in Cupertino. >> >> The upgrades to Mail have some real problems with Gmail under IMAP. Gmail >> doesn't really do true IMAP, and Mail, which does do by-the-book IMAP quite >> well, sometimes get confused. Apple issued an update to address some of the >> issues, but my Gmail is still flakey. >> >> When you upgrade to Mavericks, Apple will also want you to upgrade all the >> iWorks stuff to get better iCloud support. The problem is the newer versions >> of Numbers, Keynote and Pages aren't as capable as the iWorks 09 versions >> they replace; they have the lesser features of the iOS incarnations. (If you >> have the older iWorks 09, Apple leaves them in place so you can continue to >> use them.) My problem is the new versions on the iPad only support files >> created on the dumbed-down versions, so I’m forced to convert over to the >> new Keynote in order to do presentations with the iPad. >> >> Safari under Mavericks has backtracked on some of the HTML5 stuff from >> previous versions — most notably MathML. Its new security model makes >> running Java off Web pages bothersome. >> >> If you have an Airport router, Apple makes you use Airport Utility 6.3 >> instead of the older Airport Utility 5.6. This is bad because the newer AU >> is really dumbed-down and doesn't have nearly the power of the older one. >> It's again a case of a program being dumbed-down to work like the iOS >> counterpart. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacGroup mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacGroup mailing list > [email protected] > http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup > _______________________________________________ MacGroup mailing list [email protected] http://www.math.louisville.edu/mailman/listinfo/macgroup
