John, I have the AT&T app too. I’m with you.
> On Nov 30, 2018, at 12:20 PM, John Robinson <profilecoven...@icloud.com> > wrote: > > Harry, > > Oh I’m your understudy…we haven’t answered a phone call in years unless the > phone announces someone we know…it goes to voicemail and if it’s important > they will leave a message…AND, AT&T has an iPhone app that allows me to view > those voices mails messages as text…it is very good at getting the > translation darn near perfect….and of course I can view them from any > location, I don’t have to be home to retrieve the call. Once I view the > message it’s erased from the phone as well. If the translation is garbled > then I can still listen to the voice recording. > > I keep the landline due to the ADT alarm system that has to have good > connectivity to work properly…and ADT also text me as soon as someone enters > the home so I know who is there and when they leave as they send me another > text…the log has all activity to view…it’s really a good system…it’s actually > costing me nothing as the monthly fee is offset 100% with the discount on my > homeowners insurance.. > > I never answer a call on the iPhone unless I know who it is…I “tap” the face > of the Apple Watch, which silences the ring yet allows the caller to leave a > message if they wish… > > All this really cuts down on time and stress of others using my time… > > John > > > >> On Nov 30, 2018, at 1:02 PM, Harry Jacobson-Beyer <harr...@me.com >> <mailto:harr...@me.com>> wrote: >> >> So why do you answer their calls. I NEVER answer a phone unless I know who >> is calling. >> >> But I do appreciate your stringing them along. >> >> :-) >> >> >>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 11:06 AM, William Micou <derby...@mac.com >>> <mailto:derby...@mac.com>> wrote: >>> >>> There’s a great podcast where they try to research one of these ‘support’ >>> centers. >>> Podcast is “Reply All”, and look for episodes #102 & #103 called ‘Long >>> Distance’. >>> I too have fun with those calls. I act really excited that they found a >>> problem and I’m so thankful that they want to help me. Eventually I tell >>> them I have no Window system. >>> Bill >>> >>> "It’s the sides of the mountain which sustain life, not the top.” >>> >>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 11:35 AM, John Robinson <profilecoven...@icloud.com >>> <mailto:profilecoven...@icloud.com>> wrote: >>> >>>> Funny, love to toy with them and glad the bad guys are being arrested…how >>>> many folks go along with them and get suckered…. >>>> >>>> John >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 11:31 AM, Lee Larson <leelar...@me.com >>>>> <mailto:leelar...@me.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Over the last few years I’ve been sometimes annoyed and sometimes amused >>>>> by the frequent calls from “Microsoft Technical Support” about “problems >>>>> with my Windows computer.” >>>>> >>>>> The calls always begin with someone speaking in a heavy Indian accent >>>>> saying something like “Hello, this is Edward from Microsoft Technical >>>>> Support. We have detected problems with your computer.” >>>>> >>>>> Just for fun, I usually ask “How do you know it’s my computer?” >>>>> >>>>> Edward: “We have extensive security monitoring and have matched it with >>>>> the number under which you registered Windows.” >>>>> >>>>> At this point, I go in one of several directions. >>>>> >>>>> If I’m in a hurry, I say something like "But I have no Windows >>>>> computers.” Or I ask “Does your mother know you’re a criminal?” These are >>>>> usually answered by a quick click. >>>>> >>>>> If I’m not in a hurry, I’ll play stupid to see how long I can keep >>>>> “Edward” on the line by having trouble with my computer. >>>>> >>>>> A while back, I fired up VirtualBox on my Linux machine and opened a >>>>> Windows VM, just to see what they would do. I connected to the Web site >>>>> they suggested and watched lots of traffic as they “diagnosed” my >>>>> problems. There were lots of changes to the Windows registry. After a >>>>> short time, they came back and suggested things could be fixed for $150. >>>>> At that point, I used my mother-criminal line, hung up and deleted the >>>>> Windows VM from the Linux machine. >>>>> >>>>> This has been going on for years and I’ve often wondered why Microsoft >>>>> put up with it. According to ZDNet, it looks like they finally hit the >>>>> breaking point. >>>>> >>>>>> New Delhi police have arrested 63 suspects in the last two months >>>>>> working and operating 26 call centers that were engaging in tech support >>>>>> scams, posing as tech support staff at Microsoft, Google, Apple, and >>>>>> other major tech companies. The raids on Delhi-based call centers have >>>>>> taken place over the last two months, Microsoft said. Police first >>>>>> raided 10 call centers and arrested 24 people in October, and then >>>>>> raided 16 other call centers and made 39 more arrests this week. >>>>> >>>>>> Microsoft said its staff received over 7,000 victim reports associated >>>>>> with the 16 call centers raided this week, from over 15 countries. Users >>>>>> reported paying between $100 and $500 for unnecessary tech support >>>>>> services and products. The raids resulted in the seizure of substantial >>>>>> evidence including call scripts, live chats, voice call recordings and >>>>>> customer records from tech support fraud operations, Microsoft said. The >>>>>> Delhi police's crackdown on tech support call centers came after >>>>>> Microsoft filed legal complaints earlier this year. Microsoft has been >>>>>> collecting customer complaints about tech support scams since 2014, via >>>>>> its "Report a technical support scam" portal. >>>>> >>>>> L^2 >>>>> >>>>> --- >>>>> Lee Larson >>>>> leelar...@me.com <mailto:leelar...@me.com> >>>>> >>>>> Glory awaits, gentlemen. In the words of General Tacticus, 'Let us take >>>>> history by the scrotum.' 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