On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 11:51:52 PM UTC+1, justin White wrote:
>
> That's good, thanks for taking the time to test it. Did you use the lcnc 
> version or the old mk version?
>
> it'll be a bit before my setup is ready to try it. I suppose by then it 
> will be pulled into the mk-hal repo and a simple update will will install 
> it?
>
not realistic currently...

 

>
> On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 11:17:14 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote:
>>
>> OK, 
>> an arduino found, packaged example code tested and it looks like it is 
>> working. So simple copy&paste solution. 
>>
>> Still have no idea why it was deleted from machinekit-hal package. 
>>
>> Cern. 
>>
>>
>> Dec 28, 2019, 21:11 by [email protected]: 
>>
>> > Hmmm..., 
>> > 
>> > simple Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V from LinuxCNC repository to Machinekit-HAL 
>> repository seems to work (at least it compiles and so something, I have 
>> nothing for extra quick test [would have to find my arduino]) - 
>> https://github.com/cerna/machinekit-hal/tree/import-mb2hal-from-linuxcnc 
>> . Even the include command in src/Makefile was still there. 
>> > 
>> > Cern. 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > Dec 28, 2019, 18:22 by [email protected]: 
>> > 
>> >> A commit a year ago in MK legacy addresses something with libmodbus. 
>> >> 
>> https://github.com/machinekit/machinekit/tree/master/src/hal/user_comps/mb2hal
>>  
>> >> 
>> >> I don't know that I was asking specifically about LinuxCNC's version 
>> unless there is a more recent change that matters. The version that was in 
>> MK is probably fine if it's useable. 
>> >> 
>> >> On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 12:10:25 PM UTC-5, [email protected] 
>> wrote: 
>> >> 
>> >>> Well, looking at the mb2hal in LinuxCNC repository, I - at first 
>> glance - don't see any reason why it should not work in the Machinekit 
>> (maybe with some simple and generally automatic code changes). 
>> >>>   
>> >>> So I would really like to know the reason behind removing it. I think 
>> (trying to remember) that there was some issue with the libmodbus library 
>> and Debian package which mb2hal is wrapper around. 
>> >>>   
>> >>> Cern. 
>> >>>   
>> >>>   
>> >>> Dec 28, 2019, 16:40 by >> [email protected] <>>> : 
>> >>>   
>> >>> > Just navigating the split repo directories, "user" comps still 
>> exist in the typical directory of MK-hal, tho mb2hal is missing. Nothing 
>> like that seems to exist in MK-CNC so I assumed the MO was to keep the user 
>> comps in MK-HAL as is. mb2hal also works over serial which aside from Mesa 
>> smartserial I don't think has ever been considered "RT" in linuxCNC likely 
>> because of baud rates. While I'm sure RT modbus is probably quite useful I 
>> don't think the main use for it is usually RT critical. Generally it would 
>> take the place of other serial protocols with the convenience of TCP as 
>> well for interfacing with something else that is running faster at a 
>> hardware level, like talking to a VFD or commanding a servo drive. I think 
>> getting it in there in it's current form if possible is probably more 
>> important than addressing RT changes, which could always be added later I 
>> suppose.  
>> >>> > 
>> >>> > On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 9:50:53 AM UTC-5, >> 
>> [email protected] <>>>  wrote: 
>> >>> > 
>> >>> >> I remember that there was some problem with Modbus module which I 
>> thought was solved by ArcEye. (Maybe he will chime in.) But given that it 
>> was the so called "userspace" component, it would be in machinekit-cnc, not 
>> machinekit-hal. But it doesn't look like it is there. 
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >> The problem with mb2hal is that it presents itself as a 
>> non-real-time component (Modbus is generally considered as a non-RT), but 
>> as far as I know the Modbus RTU can be used in RT, the TCP because of inner 
>> working of TCP communication cannot. 
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >> Given the "RT" and "userspace" components definition in Machinekit 
>> is a prehistoric vintage from LinuxCNC which outlived it's usefuness, maybe 
>> it is time to have something capable both of RT and non-RT functioning. 
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >> I am planning something for which I will need the modbus 
>> communication, problem is, I plan in years. 
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >> Cern. 
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >> Dec 28, 2019, 02:36 by >> >> [email protected] <>>>  <>>> : 
>> >>> >>   
>> >>> >> > Maybe a slight misunderstanding as I just realized mb2hal does 
>> exist in the (legacy?) MK repo but is missing from the mk-hal split repo as 
>> is a couple other user comps. 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > I'm not requesting a special lcnc flavored mb2hal, As modbus is 
>> a protocol I would expect a working modbus component to work generically. 
>> What I'm asking is is there a particular reason it's not in the split repo? 
>> If it fails to build for whatever reason I'm sure I'm not the person anyone 
>> wants modifying the code and PR'ing it. I could however help test it. 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> > On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 6:50:45 PM UTC-5, Michael Brown 
>> wrote: 
>> >>> >> > 
>> >>> >> >> As things are currently I'm certain that if you convert any 
>> "simple" existing mk userspace component and replace the functional code 
>> with 
>> >>> >> >> that lcnc modbus component you are requesting, test it, get it 
>> to function as expected and lastly create a PR.. 
>> >>> >> >> Someone eventually will forward the pr request into the repo 
>> ... :-) 
>> >>> >> >> 
>> >>> >> >> Best wishes 
>> >>> >> >> Michael Brown 
>> >>> >> >> 
>> >>> >> >> On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 4:46:09 PM UTC+1, justin White 
>> wrote: 
>> >>> >> >> 
>> >>> >> >>> Bump...not alotta interest in modbus in my eh? 
>> >>> >> >>> 
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