On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 12:27:05 AM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote: > > Dec 29, 2019, 23:51 by [email protected] <javascript:>: > > > That's good, thanks for taking the time to test it. Did you use the lcnc > version or the old mk version? > > > I used the current LinuxCNC version. > > > > > it'll be a bit before my setup is ready to try it. I suppose by then it > will be pulled into the mk-hal repo and a simple update will will install > it? > > > Don't know. If it was stricken for specific reason, it would probably not > be good to introduce it again. > > Cern. >
Correct the maintainers exceeded the "use" limit due to: assumptions expectations. between "user" and Developer "space" call it a communication breakdown due to educational systems in general between the earth and gaian "philosofies" Thanx >From an energetic(suble energies) viewpoint of a Systemverilog rt constructor. > > > > > On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 11:17:14 AM UTC-5, [email protected] wrote: > > > >> OK, > >> an arduino found, packaged example code tested and it looks like it is > working. So simple copy&paste solution. > >> > >> Still have no idea why it was deleted from machinekit-hal package. > >> > >> Cern. > >> > >> > >> Dec 28, 2019, 21:11 by >> [email protected] <>>> : > >> > >> > Hmmm..., > >> > > >> > simple Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V from LinuxCNC repository to Machinekit-HAL > repository seems to work (at least it compiles and so something, I have > nothing for extra quick test [would have to find my arduino]) - >> > https://github.com/cerna/>> machinekit-hal/tree/import->> > mb2hal-from-linuxcnc>> . Even the include command in src/Makefile was > still there. > >> > > >> > Cern. > >> > > >> > > >> > Dec 28, 2019, 18:22 by >> [email protected] <>>> : > >> > > >> >> A commit a year ago in MK legacy addresses something with libmodbus. > >> >> >> https://github.com/machinekit/>> machinekit/tree/master/src/>> > hal/user_comps/mb2hal>> > >> >> > >> >> I don't know that I was asking specifically about LinuxCNC's version > unless there is a more recent change that matters. The version that was in > MK is probably fine if it's useable. > >> >> > >> >> On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 12:10:25 PM UTC-5, >> > [email protected] <>>> wrote: > >> >> > >> >>> Well, looking at the mb2hal in LinuxCNC repository, I - at first > glance - don't see any reason why it should not work in the Machinekit > (maybe with some simple and generally automatic code changes). > >> >>> > >> >>> So I would really like to know the reason behind removing it. I > think (trying to remember) that there was some issue with the libmodbus > library and Debian package which mb2hal is wrapper around. > >> >>> > >> >>> Cern. > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Dec 28, 2019, 16:40 by >> >> [email protected] <>>> <>>> : > >> >>> > >> >>> > Just navigating the split repo directories, "user" comps still > exist in the typical directory of MK-hal, tho mb2hal is missing. Nothing > like that seems to exist in MK-CNC so I assumed the MO was to keep the user > comps in MK-HAL as is. mb2hal also works over serial which aside from Mesa > smartserial I don't think has ever been considered "RT" in linuxCNC likely > because of baud rates. While I'm sure RT modbus is probably quite useful I > don't think the main use for it is usually RT critical. Generally it would > take the place of other serial protocols with the convenience of TCP as > well for interfacing with something else that is running faster at a > hardware level, like talking to a VFD or commanding a servo drive. I think > getting it in there in it's current form if possible is probably more > important than addressing RT changes, which could always be added later I > suppose. > >> >>> > > >> >>> > On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 9:50:53 AM UTC-5, >> >> > [email protected] <>>> <>>> wrote: > >> >>> > > >> >>> >> I remember that there was some problem with Modbus module which > I thought was solved by ArcEye. (Maybe he will chime in.) But given that it > was the so called "userspace" component, it would be in machinekit-cnc, not > machinekit-hal. But it doesn't look like it is there. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> The problem with mb2hal is that it presents itself as a > non-real-time component (Modbus is generally considered as a non-RT), but > as far as I know the Modbus RTU can be used in RT, the TCP because of inner > working of TCP communication cannot. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Given the "RT" and "userspace" components definition in > Machinekit is a prehistoric vintage from LinuxCNC which outlived it's > usefuness, maybe it is time to have something capable both of RT and non-RT > functioning. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> I am planning something for which I will need the modbus > communication, problem is, I plan in years. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Cern. > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> Dec 28, 2019, 02:36 by >> >> >> [email protected] <>>> <>>> > <>>> : > >> >>> >> > >> >>> >> > Maybe a slight misunderstanding as I just realized mb2hal does > exist in the (legacy?) MK repo but is missing from the mk-hal split repo as > is a couple other user comps. > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > I'm not requesting a special lcnc flavored mb2hal, As modbus > is a protocol I would expect a working modbus component to work > generically. What I'm asking is is there a particular reason it's not in > the split repo? If it fails to build for whatever reason I'm sure I'm not > the person anyone wants modifying the code and PR'ing it. I could however > help test it. > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 6:50:45 PM UTC-5, Michael > Brown wrote: > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> >> As things are currently I'm certain that if you convert any > "simple" existing mk userspace component and replace the functional code > with > >> >>> >> >> that lcnc modbus component you are requesting, test it, get > it to function as expected and lastly create a PR.. > >> >>> >> >> Someone eventually will forward the pr request into the repo > ... :-) > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> Best wishes > >> >>> >> >> Michael Brown > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >> On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 4:46:09 PM UTC+1, justin > White wrote: > >> >>> >> >> > >> >>> >> >>> Bump...not alotta interest in modbus in my eh? > >> >>> >> >>> > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > > >> >>> >> > -- > >> >>> >> > website: > >> >> >> http://www.machinekit.io>> >> >> > > blog: > >> >> >> http://blog.machinekit.io>> >> >> > github: > >> >> >> > 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