Dec 30, 2019, 18:30 by [email protected]: > > > On Monday, December 30, 2019 at 12:27:05 AM UTC+1, [email protected] wrote: > >> Dec 29, 2019, 23:51 by >> [email protected] <>>> : >> >> > That's good, thanks for taking the time to test it. Did you use the lcnc >> > version or the old mk version? >> > >> I used the current LinuxCNC version. >> >> > >> > it'll be a bit before my setup is ready to try it. I suppose by then it >> > will be pulled into the mk-hal repo and a simple update will will install >> > it? >> > >> Don't know. If it was stricken for specific reason, it would probably not be >> good to introduce it again. >> >> Cern. >> > > Correct the maintainers exceeded the "use" limit due to: > assumptions > expectations. > between "user" and Developer "space" > call it a communication breakdown due to educational systems in general > between the earth and gaian "philosofies" > Thanx > From an energetic(suble energies) viewpoint of a Systemverilog rt constructor. > I think I will ask for a hint. Because I don't understand.
Do you mean the RTAPI/ULAPI and RT/"userspace" nomenclature the Machinekit inherited from LinuxCNC (making everything overly complicated) or something else? Cern. > > > >> >> > >> > On Sunday, December 29, 2019 at 11:17:14 AM UTC-5, >> [email protected] <>>> >> > wrote: >> > >> >> OK, >> >> an arduino found, packaged example code tested and it looks like it is >> >> working. So simple copy&paste solution. >> >> >> >> Still have no idea why it was deleted from machinekit-hal package. >> >> >> >> Cern. >> >> >> >> >> >> Dec 28, 2019, 21:11 by >> >> [email protected] <>>> <>>> : >> >> >> >> > Hmmm..., >> >> > >> >> > simple Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V from LinuxCNC repository to Machinekit-HAL >> >> > repository seems to work (at least it compiles and so something, I have >> >> > nothing for extra quick test [would have to find my arduino]) - >> >> >> >> > https://github.com/cerna/>> >> machinekit-hal/tree/import->> >> >> > mb2hal-from-linuxcnc>> . Even the include command in src/Makefile was >> >> > still there. >> >> > >> >> > Cern. >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Dec 28, 2019, 18:22 by >> >> [email protected] <>>> <>>> : >> >> > >> >> >> A commit a year ago in MK legacy addresses something with libmodbus. >> >> >> >> >> https://github.com/machinekit/>> >> >> >> >> >> >> machinekit/tree/master/src/>> hal/user_comps/mb2hal>> >> >> >> >> >> >> I don't know that I was asking specifically about LinuxCNC's version >> >> >> unless there is a more recent change that matters. The version that >> >> >> was in MK is probably fine if it's useable. >> >> >> >> >> >> On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 12:10:25 PM UTC-5, >> >> >> >> >> [email protected] <>>> <>>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> Well, looking at the mb2hal in LinuxCNC repository, I - at first >> >> >>> glance - don't see any reason why it should not work in the >> >> >>> Machinekit (maybe with some simple and generally automatic code >> >> >>> changes). >> >> >>> >> >> >>> So I would really like to know the reason behind removing it. I think >> >> >>> (trying to remember) that there was some issue with the libmodbus >> >> >>> library and Debian package which mb2hal is wrapper around. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Cern. >> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>> Dec 28, 2019, 16:40 by >> >> >> [email protected] <>>> <>>> <>>> : >> >> >>> >> >> >>> > Just navigating the split repo directories, "user" comps still >> >> >>> > exist in the typical directory of MK-hal, tho mb2hal is missing. >> >> >>> > Nothing like that seems to exist in MK-CNC so I assumed the MO was >> >> >>> > to keep the user comps in MK-HAL as is. mb2hal also works over >> >> >>> > serial which aside from Mesa smartserial I don't think has ever >> >> >>> > been considered "RT" in linuxCNC likely because of baud rates. >> >> >>> > While I'm sure RT modbus is probably quite useful I don't think the >> >> >>> > main use for it is usually RT critical. Generally it would take the >> >> >>> > place of other serial protocols with the convenience of TCP as well >> >> >>> > for interfacing with something else that is running faster at a >> >> >>> > hardware level, like talking to a VFD or commanding a servo drive. >> >> >>> > I think getting it in there in it's current form if possible is >> >> >>> > probably more important than addressing RT changes, which could >> >> >>> > always be added later I suppose. >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > On Saturday, December 28, 2019 at 9:50:53 AM UTC-5, >> >> >> >> >> >>> > [email protected] <>>> <>>> <>>> wrote: >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> >> I remember that there was some problem with Modbus module which I >> >> >>> >> thought was solved by ArcEye. (Maybe he will chime in.) But given >> >> >>> >> that it was the so called "userspace" component, it would be in >> >> >>> >> machinekit-cnc, not machinekit-hal. But it doesn't look like it is >> >> >>> >> there. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> The problem with mb2hal is that it presents itself as a >> >> >>> >> non-real-time component (Modbus is generally considered as a >> >> >>> >> non-RT), but as far as I know the Modbus RTU can be used in RT, >> >> >>> >> the TCP because of inner working of TCP communication cannot. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Given the "RT" and "userspace" components definition in Machinekit >> >> >>> >> is a prehistoric vintage from LinuxCNC which outlived it's >> >> >>> >> usefuness, maybe it is time to have something capable both of RT >> >> >>> >> and non-RT functioning. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> I am planning something for which I will need the modbus >> >> >>> >> communication, problem is, I plan in years. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Cern. >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> Dec 28, 2019, 02:36 by >> >> >> >> [email protected] <>>> <>>> >> >> >>> >> <>>> <>>> : >> >> >>> >> >> >> >>> >> > Maybe a slight misunderstanding as I just realized mb2hal does >> >> >>> >> > exist in the (legacy?) MK repo but is missing from the mk-hal >> >> >>> >> > split repo as is a couple other user comps. >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > I'm not requesting a special lcnc flavored mb2hal, As modbus is >> >> >>> >> > a protocol I would expect a working modbus component to work >> >> >>> >> > generically. What I'm asking is is there a particular reason >> >> >>> >> > it's not in the split repo? If it fails to build for whatever >> >> >>> >> > reason I'm sure I'm not the person anyone wants modifying the >> >> >>> >> > code and PR'ing it. I could however help test it. >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 6:50:45 PM UTC-5, Michael Brown >> >> >>> >> > wrote: >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> >> As things are currently I'm certain that if you convert any >> >> >>> >> >> "simple" existing mk userspace component and replace the >> >> >>> >> >> functional code with >> >> >>> >> >> that lcnc modbus component you are requesting, test it, get it >> >> >>> >> >> to function as expected and lastly create a PR.. >> >> >>> >> >> Someone eventually will forward the pr request into the repo >> >> >>> >> >> ... :-) >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> Best wishes >> >> >>> >> >> Michael Brown >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >> On Friday, December 27, 2019 at 4:46:09 PM UTC+1, justin White >> >> >>> >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Bump...not alotta interest in modbus in my eh? >> >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > >> >> >>> >> > -- >> >> >>> >> > website: > >> >> >> >> 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