Honest question here:

How can it uses the cell towers to figure things out if there is no data plan 
to ask someone?  Does it have a list of all cell towers in it somewhere?    I 
would think that it would need to communicate with someone about it after 
getting tower info from the towers

Sorry, I don't know how this stuff works

On Feb 5, 2010, at 6:44 AM, Neil Laubenthal wrote:

> Assisted GPS does not require a data plan or cell connectivity to work . . 
> .assisted GPS means that the GPS chip uses cell tower info as a starting 
> point to get a fix. Without it . . .the GPS receiver must do a great deal 
> more analysis of the orbital ephemeris of the satellites before I can 
> determine where it is.
> 
> My iPhone gets a fix just fine with 3G and data disabled.  Note though . . 
> .that putting the iPhone in airplane mode is not the same . . .that disables 
> the radio entirely which means that the receiver is turned off as well.
> 
> If you've got a GPS in your car . . .ever notice how it gets a fix much 
> faster if it is in the same location as it was when you turned it off 
> compared to turning it off in say Jacksonville when you turned in the rental 
> car . . .and carrying it in your pocket to Atlanta and turning it on in your 
> next rental car? Takes much longer in the second case . . .the receiver 
> attempts to use it's last known location as an assist just like it does with 
> cell towers. If they aren't available, or the last known position is hosed . 
> . .the receiver is forced to listen a lot longer to the info the satellite is 
> transmitting before it has enough data to find itself.
> 
> On Feb 4, 2010, at 3:59 PM, objectwerks inc wrote:
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Of course, that begs the question of whether the GPS works without a data 
>> plan.  It is billed as some sort of assisted GPS that is built into the G3 
>> comms chip.  I think on the iPhone that the GPS gets seeded by a cell tower 
>> triangulation first.  Don't know the details.
> 
> 
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> 
> neil
> 
> 
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