Hi,

I just wanted to follow up on my original question and to thank all those who 
offered help.

It appears that the clicking I heard was due to my disk(s) being put to sleep, 
as John Stalberg suggested.

This morning I unchecked the "put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible" box 
in the Energy Saver preference panel.  I did not notice the clicking sound for 
a long time, but after about 6 hours I heard it again.  I looked at the Energy 
Saver panel and the box was checked again.  Just before that, I noticed some 
sysadmin process running, which I assume was re-instating the mandated energy 
saving settings (including a check in the box for putting disks to sleep).

So, unless this is a gigantic coincidence, it appears that the sounds I heard 
were the head(s) on my hard drive(s) being parked after the default time period 
(10 minutes) of inactivity.

Thanks,

Gregg

On 20 Jul 2011, at 10:16 AM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [E] wrote:

> Hi John,
> 
> Thank you for the idea that the noise may be related to the disk(s) spinning 
> down at the default time (10 minutes).  This may be exactly what is causing 
> the sounds that I hear.  I will check into it.
> 
> Until recently, I believe that the check box in the Energy Saver panel for 
> "put the hard disk(s) to sleep when possible" was NOT checked.  About a week 
> or two ago, which is about when I started hearing these noises, the sysadmin 
> folks made some energy saving changes to all systems.  I forgot about this, 
> but now I see that the box is checked, so that may explain the noises that I 
> hear.  To test this, I will uncheck the box for a few days and see if I still 
> hear anything.
> 
> By the way, for energy saving reasons, I can see why it might be a good idea 
> to put the disks to sleep.  Overall, is this good or bad for the health of 
> the disks?  Does frequent sleeping and waking put added strain on the disks, 
> so that it is better to let them always run, or is there really no 
> significant disadvantage to putting the disks to sleep?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Gregg
> 
> On 19 Jul 2011, at 11:27 PM, John Stalberg wrote:
> 
>> On 20 jul 2011, at 02:43, Macs R We <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jul 19, 2011, at 3:50 PM, Dinse, Gregg (NIH/NIEHS) [E] wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the information.  I guess one of my hard drives is probably 
>>>> bad, or going bad. 
>> 
>> The time you mention, 10 minutes, match the default spin down time. You say 
>> the clicks comes when the machine doesn't do anything (user generated 
>> stuff). If the machine doesn't do anything for 10 minutes, the system hard 
>> drive most often spin down. This is dependent on the setting in System 
>> Preferences ~> Energy Saver ~> Put hard disk to sleep when possible. 10 
>> minutes is the default time until spin down. Some disk's are quiet and 
>> others are audible. It might be a noice that would be within what the 
>> manufacturer have specified if speced at all? I think newer disk drives are 
>> less noisy than older ones.
>> 
>> Since it is difficult to take a description of the sound instead of 
>> experience it ir on location, I can't say if the sound is beyond reasonable 
>> or not?
>> 
>> But this is probably a lousy point in time to try to save a buck or two. 
>> Hdd's  doesn't cost much. I recomend you to consider using RAID0 mirrors on 
>> the internal drives. It would theoretically allow you to keep the 
>> questionable disk drive up and running, without any reason to be overly 
>> nervous for a disk drive failure.
>> 
>> If you can afford it, and don't need all these drives for other purposes, 
>> you could buy 4 drives for RAID10 (both speed boost and redundancy.
>> 
>> You could also buy 3 disk drives and take 2 for a mirrored pair and let the 
>> third be a spare. Or just 2 and no spare. Or just one and perhaps find 
>> yourself in this nervous situation again if that single drive missbehaves as 
>> this does?
>> 
>> If you can get informed about when disk spin down is executed you could 
>> listen and see if the two match?
>> 
>> // John Stalberg

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