On 2018-07-29, at 7:17 PM, Macs R We <[email protected]> wrote:

>> 
>> On Jul 29, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Michael <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I have tried to do something like this for years, but I have concluded that 
>> Apple's implementation of virtual desktops is just broken. I can never 
>> manage to have one app happy to have windows on multiple desktops (Finder, 
>> and TextEdit, are the worst behaving for me, Terminal isn't too far behind),
> 
> Hm.  I often run with Finder windows open on multiple desktops, sometimes 
> TextEdit, rarely Terminal, and very often Safari.  They seem to work fine for 
> me, or perhaps I just have lower functional expectations. The most annoying 
> functional lacuna I experience is that using command-tilde to cycle through 
> an app's active windows cycles only through the windows on that desktop 
> (making me wonder why I can't seem to find the window I remember having left 
> open, until I realize it's because it's not on the current desktop).
> 
>> restoring apps doesn't restore their windows to the desktop (Well, Finder 
>> will *usually*, not always, behave here),
> 
> I don't know if you're talking about resurrecting them from a Dock 
> pigeonhole, or automatically re-opening them after a reboot, so I can't parse 
> this complaint.

After a reboot. Or, if the system thinks that it is safe to kill and relaunch 
it later.

For example, this morning, although this is not a virtual desktop issue, 
Finder, Mail, and Terminal re-opened all of their windows on the internal 
monitor, nothing on the HDMI monitor. Which means that they resized the big 
windows down to the internal monitor size.

I've had things collapse onto a single desktop so often that I have just 
stopped trying to separate them. It's not worth trying to spend a significant 
amount of time setting up projects that way only to know that it will (not if, 
when) break.

It's worse when you consider that Apple does not back up Saved Application 
State to time machine, so in some cases, not only does everything reset to the 
current desktop on startup, but things will also go to "All windows are 
reopened as default size and random placement", and you can't restore the 
previous day's window state.

> 
>> and the general "feel" that I get is that Apple's view of virtual desktops 
>> is "This desktop is for this app", not "this desktop is for this workflow".
> 
> Maybe my brain is insufficiently object-oriented.  I typically don't use the 
> same app for different workflows simultaneously (except for looking up things 
> in Safari, or taking notes in TextEdit, and these both seem to work fine for 
> me).

Finder, TextEdit, Terminal, and Mail are consistently multi-project programs 
for me. And they consistently fail/collapse to a single desktop. And this 
morning they collapsed to a single monitor.


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