On 2018-08-02, at 7:26 PM, Macs R We <[email protected]> wrote: > Ah. It sounds like you're having problems with multiple monitors. I use > multiple desktops on the laptop monitor only, so I have no experience with > the deficiencies you appear to be describing. I also haven't had apps > "collapse to a single desktop" to my knowledge. But I leave my laptop on > 24/7 (I just sleep the display when I'm not using it) so I can always access > it remotely if need be — since I rarely sleep or shutdown the machine, that's > perhaps why I haven't seen any collapsing.
I use both multiple monitors *AND* multiple desktops. Multiple desktops are far more painful when they fail (because it takes so long to resort the windows, especially finder windows, by project/virtual desktop), so I've stopped even trying to use them. > >> On Aug 1, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Michael <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> On 2018-07-29, at 7:17 PM, Macs R We <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >>>> On Jul 29, 2018, at 12:10 PM, Michael <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> I have tried to do something like this for years, but I have concluded >>>> that Apple's implementation of virtual desktops is just broken. I can >>>> never manage to have one app happy to have windows on multiple desktops >>>> (Finder, and TextEdit, are the worst behaving for me, Terminal isn't too >>>> far behind), >>> >>> Hm. I often run with Finder windows open on multiple desktops, sometimes >>> TextEdit, rarely Terminal, and very often Safari. They seem to work fine >>> for me, or perhaps I just have lower functional expectations. The most >>> annoying functional lacuna I experience is that using command-tilde to >>> cycle through an app's active windows cycles only through the windows on >>> that desktop (making me wonder why I can't seem to find the window I >>> remember having left open, until I realize it's because it's not on the >>> current desktop). >>> >>>> restoring apps doesn't restore their windows to the desktop (Well, Finder >>>> will *usually*, not always, behave here), >>> >>> I don't know if you're talking about resurrecting them from a Dock >>> pigeonhole, or automatically re-opening them after a reboot, so I can't >>> parse this complaint. >> >> After a reboot. Or, if the system thinks that it is safe to kill and >> relaunch it later. >> >> For example, this morning, although this is not a virtual desktop issue, >> Finder, Mail, and Terminal re-opened all of their windows on the internal >> monitor, nothing on the HDMI monitor. Which means that they resized the big >> windows down to the internal monitor size. >> >> I've had things collapse onto a single desktop so often that I have just >> stopped trying to separate them. It's not worth trying to spend a >> significant amount of time setting up projects that way only to know that it >> will (not if, when) break. >> >> It's worse when you consider that Apple does not back up Saved Application >> State to time machine, so in some cases, not only does everything reset to >> the current desktop on startup, but things will also go to "All windows are >> reopened as default size and random placement", and you can't restore the >> previous day's window state. >> >>> >>>> and the general "feel" that I get is that Apple's view of virtual desktops >>>> is "This desktop is for this app", not "this desktop is for this workflow". >>> >>> Maybe my brain is insufficiently object-oriented. I typically don't use >>> the same app for different workflows simultaneously (except for looking up >>> things in Safari, or taking notes in TextEdit, and these both seem to work >>> fine for me). >> >> Finder, TextEdit, Terminal, and Mail are consistently multi-project programs >> for me. And they consistently fail/collapse to a single desktop. And this >> morning they collapsed to a single monitor. >> >> >> --- >> Entertaining minecraft videos >> http://YouTube.com/keybounce > --- Entertaining minecraft videos http://YouTube.com/keybounce
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