PK, here, stands to represent the opposite of myself... he represents the "bulk" that I was referring to that would have the knowledge to do a very simple CPAN install/update, and even cut'n'pasting commands for a manual recompile (which are easy to find with a quick google search), but wouldn't have a clue about what happens during the C compilation and dynamic libraries.
My real point is not a matter of technical savviness. It's more that something Apple pushed out broke something I, and others have setup. I might even have been more cautious about the update IF they listed it as something being updated, which they did NOT do. Especially in the situation where they are not disclosing every detail, they could put a little more effort in support of the things they are encouraging and marketting. Perl is one thing that is appealing. They ARE drawing newbies into a new world. And no matter who's fault it really comes down to, it's the customers who will blame the update. Cause, effect. Just look at the remarks on VersionTracker. Most complaints are due to something the individual did, but Apple will take the brunt of accusation. Anyway... I'm happy now... I hope your stuff works out PK. -Alex PK Eidesis wrote: ><sort of rant> > >I second Alex's feelings about this... keep in mind, I speak as a total Perl >newbie, not necessarily a computer newbie. Even though I know my way around >cron and grep, I am not really proficient at *nix or Perl, but I appreciate >both. MacOS X is truly wonderful since it brings the coherence, ease, and >beauty of MacOS with the diversity and cultural chaos of *nix and Perl. But >my MacOS background stands in mixed awe of something like > >s//pop/e;print^s/./hex($`%10+$&)%15/eg&&do$0 > >I say "mixed awe" because it is awesome, but it is also obtuse. Until my >fingers can create something like that in unison with my brain, I am an >outsider. > >I really want to use Perl and learn it, but I want to spend more time using >and learning it, and less time trying to figure out why it is not working. I >loved reading through the llama book because Randal held my hand, made me >grin, and shake my head in amusement and wonder. > >But this whole Perl 5.6.1, mod_perl crapola has left me very befuddled. In >some ways I have myself to blame because I dicked with Apple's stock 5.6.0 >install... I never should have done that. Otoh, Perl/CPAN/mod_perl install >should have protected me from screwing myself up. > >Perl started as a system mgt. language (more or less), as a text processing >language. It has now morphed into countless other uses. One use that >intersects my interests is as a web server, database, middleware glue. To >that extent, I really would like an Apache/mod_perl/DBI/Perl bundle in all >its double-clickable goodness. > >Of course, wanting something doesn't make it happen. I would make it myself >if I were Perl savvy enough to begin with. But therein lies the catch-22. I >want something I am not good enough to make myself. > >This list is cool because it shows there is great interest in Perl among >MacOS X users. I have seen some famous Perl names on this list (you know who >you are). Hopefully, we will all benefit from their insight and help. >
