On Sunday, April 14, 2002, at 01:54 , Gilmore-Baldwin, John wrote:

> I can't imagine a quicker way to destroy those last two qualities (eager
> and motivated) than to laugh at them for doing a little research (rtfm,
> so to speak), finding an answer to a problem and using it. In my
> experience, it's a good way to make people pull back, not venture
> outside the tried and true, become apathetic, and quickly become
> employed somewhere else.
>
> I've found that if I can explain to somebody how they could improve on
> what they have, and explain to them why I feel my way is better, then
> they walk away happy, and feel like they're learning, too. Then
> (usually) they do get better, and learn.
>

I'm a sys admin.  I never told anyone I was a programmer.  A few months 
ago I got yanked into a coder meeting and one of my Perl Scripts was on 
the wall in 4 foot glory and our manager was pointing out how NOT to 
write code.  He never asked me why I did any of the things I did and to 
be honest I'm not entirely sure why he took my script b/c it was working 
as expected and not really anything anyone but I used.

Long story short all the coders busted my chops except for one who 
commended my:

--boring, cautious, obvious over commented code--

While I never complained officially (although I did post on Perl Monks) 
the manager got fired for doing this to others.  So maybe busting a 
coder's chops for no reason isn't a smart thing to do.

Your way seems much more reasonable.

PS -- I still write boring, obvious, cautious & over commented code.  (I 
comment a lot b/c I might do something and three months later need to 
know what it is I did and why.  I'm a Sys Admin I don't code everyday.)
--
Lou Moran
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http://ellem.dyn.dhs.org:5281/
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