On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Heather Madrone wrote:

> At 12:46 PM 11/15/2002 +1100, Ken Williams wrote:
> >On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 11:17  AM, Heather Madrone wrote:

> However, these past few days have been so discouraging that I have
> considered selling the Powerbook and surrendering to the evil of
> Microsoft.

As everyone keeps saying, install the Developer's Tools. Among a great
many other things -- it's distributed as a 200mb or so package and is
something like 1gb installed -- this gives you all the software that any
good Unix nerd needs to be content & fulfilled (make, gcc, etc etc) along
with the high level GUI building tools & copious documentation.

Actually, I'm a bit curious how you managed to install Perl 5.8.0 without
first installing the Tools. Maybe I missed some detail...

> Those Apple switch ads currently make steam come out my ears.

Kill Your Television. Problem goes away abruptly :)

> No, I don't have any.  I have had compatibility problems in the past
> with different versions of make, so I thought I'd save myself a headache
> from the start by asking y'all which version you use.

Devtools. I understand that you can also get a copy of BSD's make from the
GNU/Darwin project, but you shouldn't need this. By default you should get
something like this anyway:

    % ls -l /usr/bin/*make
    -rwxr-xr-x  2 root  wheel  234621 Jul 14 07:25 /usr/bin/automake
    -r-xr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  119636 Nov 11 18:00 /usr/bin/bsdmake
    -rwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel  152220 Nov 11 18:00 /usr/bin/gnumake
    lrwxr-xr-x  1 root  wheel       7 Nov 11 18:10 /usr/bin/make -> gnumake

So unless you're a staunch *BSD user, I personally don't see the point of
using GNU/Darwin's tools. Rather, for simplified package management, I
suggest taking a look at Fink, which make's Debian's apt/dpkg/dselect
suite available, wrapping them all behind the Fink command:

    % sudo fink install uw-imapd-ssl

Or

    % sudo fink selfupdate-cvs && sudo fink update-all

Couldn't be easier. :)

....unfortunately, to [not] answer your majordomo question, I don't see it
or any other mailing list applications among Fink's current catalog...

> Most of the mac-specific perl docs that I have seen refer to OS 9.  I'm
> not sure how much of them apply to OS X, so I've been relying on more
> generic perl docs.

This generally seems like the way to go.



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Chris Devers    [EMAIL PROTECTED]

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