On Thu, 14 Nov 2002, Heather Madrone wrote: > At 12:46 PM 11/15/2002 +1100, Ken Williams wrote: > >On Friday, November 15, 2002, at 11:17 AM, Heather Madrone wrote:
> However, these past few days have been so discouraging that I have > considered selling the Powerbook and surrendering to the evil of > Microsoft. As everyone keeps saying, install the Developer's Tools. Among a great many other things -- it's distributed as a 200mb or so package and is something like 1gb installed -- this gives you all the software that any good Unix nerd needs to be content & fulfilled (make, gcc, etc etc) along with the high level GUI building tools & copious documentation. Actually, I'm a bit curious how you managed to install Perl 5.8.0 without first installing the Tools. Maybe I missed some detail... > Those Apple switch ads currently make steam come out my ears. Kill Your Television. Problem goes away abruptly :) > No, I don't have any. I have had compatibility problems in the past > with different versions of make, so I thought I'd save myself a headache > from the start by asking y'all which version you use. Devtools. I understand that you can also get a copy of BSD's make from the GNU/Darwin project, but you shouldn't need this. By default you should get something like this anyway: % ls -l /usr/bin/*make -rwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 234621 Jul 14 07:25 /usr/bin/automake -r-xr-xr-x 1 root wheel 119636 Nov 11 18:00 /usr/bin/bsdmake -rwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 152220 Nov 11 18:00 /usr/bin/gnumake lrwxr-xr-x 1 root wheel 7 Nov 11 18:10 /usr/bin/make -> gnumake So unless you're a staunch *BSD user, I personally don't see the point of using GNU/Darwin's tools. Rather, for simplified package management, I suggest taking a look at Fink, which make's Debian's apt/dpkg/dselect suite available, wrapping them all behind the Fink command: % sudo fink install uw-imapd-ssl Or % sudo fink selfupdate-cvs && sudo fink update-all Couldn't be easier. :) ....unfortunately, to [not] answer your majordomo question, I don't see it or any other mailing list applications among Fink's current catalog... > Most of the mac-specific perl docs that I have seen refer to OS 9. I'm > not sure how much of them apply to OS X, so I've been relying on more > generic perl docs. This generally seems like the way to go. -- Chris Devers [EMAIL PROTECTED]