On Mar 8, 2018, at 18:27, Ryan Schmidt wrote:

> On Mar 8, 2018, at 15:26, Joshua Root wrote:
>> On 2018-3-9 07:07 , Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>>> On Mar 8, 2018, at 11:24, Joshua Root wrote:
>>>> Code to check C++ stdlib linkage in rev-upgrade is now in master. That
>>>> takes care of the main obstacle to being able to change the default stdlib.
>>> Currently, we publish archives on packages.macports.org for 10.8 and 
>>> earlier that are built for libstdc++. Currently, if we were to create 
>>> archives for libc++ on those systems, the archive names would be the same. 
>>> Is your plan to leave it that way, or to change the archive names for 
>>> libc++ to distinguish them from the old libstdc++ archives?
>> I was not planning to rename the archives. It would work if we left all
>> the existing archives, albeit inefficiently when an archive using the
>> old stdlib is downloaded and immediately gets rebuilt.
> Ok, rev-upgrade would detect a mismatch between the user's selected 
> cxx_stdlib and the one in the archive they received. That does answer one 
> concern of mine.

Well, no it doesn't. You are proposing to "stealth update" our current 
libstdc++ archives and replace them with libc++ archives. This would horribly 
break the MacPorts installations of anyone running any version of MacPorts 
that's current today, which doesn't have a rev-upgrade that knows about 
cxx_stdlib nor does it know what cxx_stdlib or delete_la_files setting an 
archive site uses. So we need to be sure that all users have upgraded to the 
future version of MacPorts that have those capabilities before replacing the 
archives. How do we know when all users have done that?

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