On Dec 21, 2011, at 12:43 AM, David Frantz wrote:

> As to nibs well the whole thing is just very obtuse and frustrating to me.    
> Mind you my background is not the same as many here, being focused on 
> industrial automation, but if find the use of nibs and Interface builder to 
> be very taxing and not very object Oriented.  MacRuby would likely generate a 
> lot more interest if they moved away from the interface builder approach to 
> GUI development.    I know this will result in many arrows coming my way, but 
> really folks lets be objective here IB is a very strange departure from most 
> GUI development systems.  

That was essentially the goal of the HotCocoa project, but it seems that very 
few folks shared your concerns or your desire for XIB-less UI development since 
outside contributions (once Rich moved on to other things) have been extremely 
minimal.

- Jordan

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