At 7:29 PM +0100 12/23/11, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: > On Dec 23, 2011, at 2:47 AM, isaac kearse wrote: > > Are you aware that HotCocoa is being actively developed again? > >https://github.com/HotCocoa/hotcocoa/blob/master/History.markdown > > > That's good to know. It would also be good to know, if and > when the subject ever comes up, what its mission statement > currently is. Front-end all of AppKit? All of AppKit AND > Foundation? Neither of those, but provide convenience > functions if and only when a certain conciseness (as > expressed in percentage of code saved) is achievable? This > is something I have been wondering ever since Rich started > the project, since it definitely achieves an admirable degree > of brevity over the equivalent ObjC code, but where do you > stop? How will we know when HotCocoa is "done"? :-)
I'm not all that worried about whether HotCocoa is ever "done", but I do think there are some interesting questions about how additions should be managed. As Jordan suggests, there could be rules for accepting additions, eg: ... if and only when a certain conciseness (as expressed in percentage of code saved) is achievable ... Details aside, it can be good to know what kinds of things are likely to be accepted (or rejected) without much discussion. That said, I would like HotCocoa to be a continuing dialogue for ways to make MacRuby code clearer and more idiomatic. I think that "code forums" such as GitHub are extremely well suited to this sort of dialogue. If I want to try out a new idiom or feature, I can simply fork the project and hack. If my work shows promise, I can push it back to GitHub and make an announcement. The trickier question is how to get reliable infrastructure out of such a dialogue. The traditional approach involves a cabal of "core committers", but Git and GitHub projects are not required to be organized in this fashion. In any case, I'm not particularly worried. If we have robust participation in HotCocoa use and development, the details can and will be worked out. -r -- http://www.cfcl.com/rdm Rich Morin http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/resume r...@cfcl.com http://www.cfcl.com/rdm/weblog +1 650-873-7841 Software system design, development, and documentation _______________________________________________ MacRuby-devel mailing list MacRuby-devel@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/macruby-devel
