Alrighty then, VO shift and M worked like a charm. Finally got the
song haha. Thank you thank you! Next step is learning how to make
playlists and organize the music the way I want. The website Esther
gave me  makes it sound really complicated, and thats for itunes
seven. Any pointers for me? I think I've mastered the store. Though
the two podcasts I tried failed in downloading so that was
disappointing haha.

I had given up and walked away. So glad I looked here again.

rayna424 wrote:
> I'm confused.
>
> So it's VO shift and M on the price, not VO shift space?
>
> So to refiew, I search, then interact with songs list, get to where it
> says price, and do VO shift M?
>
> Most other voiceover commands are over my head, as I'm still new, only
> doing this since December. So nursery school directions are needed to
> explain things to me lol.
>
> Do you know why albums are so much easier? I've already gotten 3
> because there's a nice easy button that says, buy now. Why don't they
> have that for songs?
>
> Man, learning brail is easier than itunes haha.
>
> Thanks,
> Randi
>
> Esther wrote:
> > Hi Scott and Rayna,
> >
> > Yes, use VO-Shift-M after selecting the song or songs and choose "Buy
> > or Get Currently Selected Songs" to purchase your song selection.  I
> > think the issue is that if you don't route your mouse cursor to the
> > price (VO-Command-F5) before clicking your selection (VO-Shift-Space)
> > you're clicking in some arbitrary location.  You can also change your
> > preferences, (Command-comma) to use a shopping cart, as Scott does.
> > These discussion posts were made in the period before the posts on the
> > new list were being archived, so I couldn't just point you to the
> > instructions. Under the Store preferences you can choose the radio
> > button to use a shopping cart instead of buy with one-click (the
> > default). Dismiss the preferences window with Command-W when you're
> > done.  The Shopping Cart is another item in the sources table below
> > the selection for the iTunes Store, and allows you to review purchase
> > contents by selecting it, and then examining contents when you tab to
> > its "songs table".
> >
> > You can practice your purchase on one of the free discovery downloads
> > for the U.S. Store:
> >
> > http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?id=314654865
> >
> > When you click on the above link, or copy it, paste it into your web
> > browser and press return (Command-C, Command-L, Command-V, return); it
> > will open up iTunes at the iTunes Store page for that song or album.
> >
> > Tab to the Songs outline to view the free track ("Light through the
> > Veins" by Jon Hopkins).  If you VO-up arrow from the songs outline
> > you'll be in the HTML area.  Interact and read the descriptions.
> >
> > Here's the same song as part of an album. In this link, the actual
> > song is specified within the album, so when you check iTunes your
> > focus should be on the (free) song in that album in the songs table.
> > When you VO-Up arrow to the HTML area you get the album information
> > and the button to purchase the album.
> >
> > http://itunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewAlbum?i=312718564&id=312718542
> >
> > Searches for specific tracks in the iTunes Store using the power
> > search, with the pop up button set to "Music", work the same way.  If
> > you select an album, the description is in the HTML area.  If you stop
> > interacting and VO-down arrow to the songs table, you'll see the
> > individual tracks, and can purchase them one by one.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Esther
> >
> > On May 10, 2009, at 1:20 PM, Scott Howell wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Yep, you need to do VO-keys+shift+m to bring up the context menu. Once
> > > you click on buy for the track, it's placed in your shopping cart and/
> > > or if you want an entire album, interact with the iTunes html area and
> > > locate the button for purchasing the entire album. I've got this down
> > > to an art now considering the amount of money I've spent. :)
> > > On May 10, 2009, at 6:44 PM, rayna424 wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> Ok, so I looked at his page to expand on what you said about finding
> > >> the price for a song and then VO shift space. When I do that, it
> > >> opens
> > >> up different commands, with options for store, window, itunes, apple,
> > >> etc. How do I buy a song with this? Maybe its VO space and then
> > >> shift?
> > >> this is confusing. Is there something I'm missing? He didn't mention
> > >> any new window, just to do exactly what you said to purchase. And
> > >> then
> > >> all info stops there haha. What do I do next? Why is purchasing one
> > >> song different from purchasing an album? Albums are so easy. I wish
> > >> songs were.
> > >>
> > >> Thanks,Randi
> > >>
> > >> Esther wrote:
> > >>> Hi Rayna,
> > >>>
> > >>> Look through Tim Kilburn's VoiceOver pages for an overview of iTunes
> > >>> and creating playlists.  Here's the link to the iTunes 7
> > >>> description:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://homepage.mac.com/kilburns/voiceover/itunes7.html
> > >>>
> > >>> You can just Google on "kilburns VoiceOver" to find one of his pages
> > >>> -- usually, his downloads page comes up -- and then use item chooser
> > >>> menu to find the link to home as the starting point.  This is for
> > >>> iTunes 7, but is a good overview. Main change in iTunes 8 is added
> > >>> accessibility for the HTML part of the iTunes Store, but the old
> > >>> descriptions work, and are particularly helpful for buying
> > >>> individual
> > >>> songs using the songs table part of the store -- you just route your
> > >>> mouse cursor to the place where you hear the price announced and use
> > >>> VO-Shift-Space to purchase.  Read more details on Tim's page.
> > >>>
> > >>> You create playlists either by creating a blank playlist with
> > >>> Command-
> > >>> N, which you then name and add items to, or by selecting an item or
> > >>> group of items in the songs table (or in the iTunes browser if you
> > >>> have that toggled on/off with Command-B -- will allow you to refine
> > >>> your songs table listing by album, artist or genre selection) and
> > >>> using Command-Shift-N to make a new playlist from your selection.
> > >>> Add
> > >>> to playlists either by using the context menu (VO-Shift-M) on
> > >>> selected
> > >>> songs in the songs outline, and "Add to Playlist" by selecting an
> > >>> existing playlist from the list, or copy and paste from your songs
> > >>> outline selections to the playlist in the sources table.
> > >>>
> > >>> Easiest way to search for podcasts is to use the "Search" feature in
> > >>> the iTunes Store.  You can bring this up from the menu bar of the
> > >>> "Store" menu option in iTunes (VO-Shift-M to the menu bar, press "s"
> > >>> to go to "Store", arrow down and press "s" to go to "Search" and
> > >>> return), or on any main page in the iTunes Store look for the "Power
> > >>> Search" link with the item chooser or link chooser menu.  For
> > >>> details,
> > >>> see this post in the archives:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/
> > >>> msg40999.html
> > >>> (Searching for content in the newly accessible iTunes Store)
> > >>>
> > >>> You can even bookmark a direct link to the podcast power search
> > >>> page:
> > >>> http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/MZSearch.woa/wa/advancedSearch?
> > >>> mt=2
> > >>>
> > >>> Your best bet for detailed instructions is to search the Mail
> > >>> Archives
> > >>> for this list.  Here's an old post that covers podcasts in iTunes:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/
> > >>> msg45414.html
> > >>> (in response to a general request for new user resources, but
> > >>> specific
> > >>> answer about podcasts)
> > >>>
> > >>> It also has some information on how to search the archives.
> > >>>
> > >>> Another old archived post:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/
> > >>> msg39671.html
> > >>> (Summary: Subscribing to podcasts in iTunes -- just before the
> > >>> iTunes
> > >>> Store became fully accessible, so there are now more options.  Also,
> > >>> don't try to use the links in that post to get Mike Arrigo's
> > >>> podcasts,
> > >>> since the episodes from over 9 months ago are no longer on the
> > >>> direct
> > >>> feed.)
> > >>>
> > >>> Here's another post from the archives search:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/
> > >>> msg45013.html
> > >>> (Miscellaneous Tips for working with iPods and Playlists -- was in
> > >>> response to the issue of making up playlists for the Nano 4G and
> > >>> explains how playlists are ordered in the sources list, how they can
> > >>> be organized in to folders, and how to check total time.  Most of
> > >>> the
> > >>> beginning is specific to selecting playlists when you have your Nano
> > >>> connected, so you can skip over this.)
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/
> > >>> msg35740.html
> > >>> (Re: How do I move ITunes songs to another playlist? -- gives more
> > >>> detailed instructions about using the contextual menu to add songs
> > >>> to
> > >>> playlists).
> > >>>
> > >>> There was also a more recent post last month about smart playlists:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg01294.html
> > >>> (Introduction to Smart Playlists in iTunes (long))
> > >>>
> > >>> Again, if you learn to use the search feature on the secondary mail
> > >>> list archives for this list you can find all sorts of topics, and
> > >>> even
> > >>> read down the threads.  My post of a few days ago in reply gives an
> > >>> example of how to do search:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/msg02201.html
> > >>>
> > >>> In general, just go to the Mail Archives page for the old list
> > >>> (December 2005 - January 2009) at:
> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/discuss%40macvisionaries.com/
> > >>>
> > >>> or the new list (February 2009 - present) at:
> > >>>
> > >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/macvisionaries%40googlegroups.com/
> > >>>
> > >>> tab to the search field, put in a few search terms, and press
> > >>> return.
> > >>> There's a gap of nearly a month before archiving was requested for
> > >>> the
> > >>> new list at the Mail Archives, but everything from the last day of
> > >>> February and later should be in the new archives.
> > >>>
> > >>> HTH
> > >>>
> > >>> Cheers,
> > >>>
> > >>> Esther
> > >>>
> > >>> On May 10, 2009, at 8:14 AM, rayna424 wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Hello everyone. Mark helped me figure out search, so I have found
> > >>>> and
> > >>>> downloaded some stuff. How though, do you crate a playlist? I
> > >>>> clicked
> > >>>> on create a playlist, and the fields made no sense. I got a bunch
> > >>>> of
> > >>>> classical stuff that I want to put in a folder. Also, is there an
> > >>>> easy
> > >>>> way to get just single song? I searched for a song I wanted and
> > >>>> had to
> > >>>> click around a few links to get to just the song and not the whole
> > >>>> album. I heard how much it was, and my boyfreind saw, buy now,
> > >>>> but I
> > >>>> didn't hear that, and it wasn't a button. Could it just be that it
> > >>>> wasn't available? I'm sure there are podcasts on how to do this
> > >>>> with
> > >>>> Voiceover, or an article or something. How would I search for
> > >>>> podcasts, I mean, what words would I enter? And does anyone know
> > >>>> of a
> > >>>> good article?
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thanks, and iTunes rocks!! I got the 50 most essential pieces of
> > >>>> classical music for eleven bucks!! Sweet!
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Randi
> > >>>>
> > >>>> rayna424 wrote:
> > >>>>> Hi guys,
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I haven't used iTunes yet since buying my macbook in December. I
> > >>>>> opened it 2 days ago and it asked some preliminary set up
> > >>>>> questions
> > >>>>> and opens what I assume is the player. I've looked all over it and
> > >>>>> there's no way to access the store to do anything. I think I
> > >>>>> need a
> > >>>>> crash course. One of the questions it asked was if I wanted to
> > >>>>> download an upgrade and I didn't for some reason. Now I don't know
> > >>>>> how
> > >>>>> to tell it to get the upgrade. Could this be the problem? Don't
> > >>>>> know
> > >>>>> what to do with itunes. It doesn't make any sense haha.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>> Randi
> > >>>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > > >
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