Assuming of course that the developer wants to. Essentially, you'll end up with the exact same situation you have on every other platform where a screenreader exists, its going to be down to the developers to make there applications accessable. To be honest, using a touch screen is nice, knowing where abouts things are on the screen is nice, but it'll be the developers of the third party apps that will diside if the i phone has a strong following in the blind communitty or not.
On 09/06/2009, Dan Eickmeier <va3...@yahoo.ca> wrote: > > And what about that gps application that was demonstrated as part of > the WWDC keynote. All the developer of that would have to do is make > that accessible with VO on the iPhone? I'm assuming? > On Jun 9, 2009, at 8:44 AM, Larry Wanger wrote: > >> >> And, you've made the point. You have more choices and the main drivers >> behind your decision aren't what's accessible to you in the phone >> market, its what phone offers you what you need. And that my friend is >> what this is all about. You have another choice. >> >> Just as an FYI, you don't need iTunes once you get this set up. You >> need iTunes to get speech and other accessibility functions working on >> the phone for sure. But, after that, all bets are off. I know for a >> fact that there are 3rd party products out there that can allow you to >> sync your iPhone without ever using iTunes. In fact, I use one of >> those 3rd party products to sync up my Samsung right now. So, iTunes >> is not required. >> >> A BRF/Daisey reader, in due time I suspect. I'm sure that will happen. >> Like anything else, a developer just needs to step forward and do it. >> >> GPS solution for the blind? Who says that MobileGeo couldn't be >> written for the OS/phone platform? And, like the Windows based phones, >> I'm sure that through blue tooth you could use an independent GPS >> receiver as most of us do now. >> >> It is interesting that they don't mention Braille and I wonder about >> that feature as well. I don't use it but could see that being of >> value. So, maybe its in the works. >> >> However, nothing you've thrown out here seems impossible and, just >> like everyone else, you have a choice about what platform and phone >> you use. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Jun 9, 2009, at 5:19 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi guys, I have to admit, when I read this, the sweat started >>> pouring >>> and the hart started thumping. It was better than my third cup of >>> coffee in the morning which I'm still looking forward to with some >>> anticipation, smiles. Speaking of which, one sec while I go pour the >>> second one... >>> >>> OK, So here's why I won't be tossing my mobile speak pocket licence >>> in >>> the trash any time soon. >>> >>> First, I'm a scronnie, crabbie, and none too good-looking blind man. >>> An IPhone won't get me more girls, put 10 pounds of muscle on me in >>> exactly the right preportions, or make me a nicer person. So forget >>> it for the time being at least. >>> >>> So far, we have no braille display support. I haven't read anything >>> about a fully featured gps solution for the IPhone which I have to >>> have, or a brf reader which I don't have to have, but will use on >>> ocasion. So it's really exciting to see the support coming along. >>> I'd love to fly down to the apple store and play with one for half an >>> hour. But I really use braille on my phone, and I really use a gps >>> system, and I won't be replacing my current set up until these >>> features are tested and true. >>> >>> So forgetting all the software you don't get, look at what you do >>> get... ITunes. You need ITunes to sync your calendar and >>> contacts? ...seriously? What happened to ISync? Forget it. I >>> can't >>> wait to get rid of my IPod, because the software I tried to replace >>> ITunes for syncing my music doesn't work and I'm sick of the whole >>> mess. Why would I want to buy another device that forces me to >>> ITunes >>> to sync my calendar and contacts? No thank you. ITunes is getting >>> the old command option delete as soon as this IPod is gone. Not that >>> I have anything against the IPod. It's a beautiful machine. My only >>> problems with it are that it dumps my library every time the battery >>> dies, and ITunes crashes whenever it tries to sync. Oh, and ITunes >>> doesn't update my library properly, and it won't let me change the >>> settings for ripping/encoding cd's, and it corupts my library every >>> three months or so and makes me start all over again, and it fills my >>> screen with all kinds of clutter I don't need, and Oh yeh, I >>> generally >>> hate being forced into using software that I don't like... Fwew! >>> >>> So basicly I'll wait till I can have the functionality that I have on >>> my I-Paq, especially gps navigation, braille support, and copy and >>> paste file transfers. >>> >>> Another thing the IPhone didn't have previously which I hope they've >>> fixed now is cdma support. It's got to have cdma support to be really >>> viable here where CDMA is king. I'm using gsm, and would be more ore >>> less happy with it if my carrier didn't lie to me, price gouge me, >>> and >>> go behind my back at every turn. I am counting down the days left on >>> my contract so I can cut my rediculous sell phone bill. There are >>> way >>> more CDMA carriers here than gsm though, in fact there are only two >>> gsm carriers here and they are both owned by the same company which >>> is >>> universally hated here. It's not just me this time. So, we have to >>> have cdma support if we want to make the IPhone attractive to the %75 >>> of us who don't use a gsm carrier here in ontario, and probably the >>> rest of canada as well. Right now, the only supported platform that >>> runs on CDMA unless the new IPhone comes with CDMA support is windows >>> mobile and mobile speak pocket/smartphone. So that's what technology >>> companies here are going to keep selling. When orator and the >>> blackberry support comes it's going to be CDMA supported as well, and >>> so we might go with that for people who don't want advanced screen >>> reader features. >>> >>> It is nice to see the stride finally taken in this area though. >>> Apple >>> accessibility is making finominal products, but the detracters will >>> never stop complaining that this that or the other device isn't >>> accessible, so Apple must be falling behind on it's committments or >>> they aren't really serious. It's not for me, but I bet a number of >>> people who don't mind gsm carriers are going to be thrilled and it >>> would be fun to get one for demo purposes. >>> >>> Have fun, >>> >>> erik burggraaf >>> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant. >>> Phone: 888-255-5194 >>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com >>> >>> On 8-Jun-09, at 4:41 PM, ben mustill-rose wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Read. >>>> http://www.apple.com/accessibility/iphone/vision.html >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >> > > > > > > -- Kind regards, BEN. email: bmustillr...@gmail.com msn: benmustillr...@hotmail.com web: http://www.bmr.me.uk (under construction) --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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