what I meant to say was I am not sure if voice over itself will ship  
with voices in italian, greek, arabic, russian polish, etc. or whether  
we are still locked down to using acapella

On 7 Jul 2009, at 18:07, Koumanova Rostislava wrote:

>
> i did not understand this post.
> i know that you have to buy the foreign languages.
> rk
> Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 18:06, william lomas ha scritto:
>
>>
>> it says on the site the quickstart is localised in eighteen languages
>> with nine new ones and with the voices you can hear it in your own
>> languages
>> but i hope that the eighteen or so work with pre-defined foreign
>> voices
>>
>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:51, Simon Cavendish wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> O yes, I entirely agree. They have always acknowledged my posts, and
>>> I'm sure they are trying to do their best in Braille support. I
>>> wouldn't be without my Mac now. No regrets switching on my part!
>>>
>>> With best wishes, Simon
>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:44, James & Nash wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I hear what you're saying Simon. To Apple's credit, they have  
>>>> always
>>>> acknowledged my messages and have offered support where they can. I
>>>> still
>>>> like and would continue to use Windows for things but I do miss  
>>>> Mac.
>>>> That's
>>>> why I'm going to purchase a new one.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Simon Cavendish" <[email protected]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding providing a
>>>>> broader support in refreshable Braille for other languages. I do
>>>>> hope
>>>>> Snow Leopard is going to bring this aspect to those of us who  
>>>>> would
>>>>> benefit from it. It would certainly accelerate my leaving Windows
>>>>> behind altogether.
>>>>>
>>>>> With best wishes
>>>>>
>>>>> Simon
>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:50, James & Nash wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well on the Snow Leopard page there is a host of different
>>>>>> features.
>>>>>> Yes, I
>>>>>> think I remember reading that something - it may have been Voice
>>>>>> Over - was
>>>>>> localized in about 40 different languages. But I'm not sure about
>>>>>> Braille
>>>>>> support. However, if you can some way implement BRLTTY or ask
>>>>>> Apple
>>>>>> to do so
>>>>>> we may get native foreign language Braille support. I think Apple
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>> based, so this should not be too difficult.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Take care
>>>>>>
>>>>>> James
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "william lomas" <[email protected]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> is there a complete list of new features? i.e.
>>>>>> .do we get new language voices i wonder
>>>>>> . new braille support in other alnguages?
>>>>>> etc
>>>>>> i guess we will not know these details really until the product  
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> out
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:29, James & Nash wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It sounds like Snow Leopard is an upgrade. Is this the case?
>>>>>>> Fortunately, I
>>>>>>> have a copy of 10.5 which I bought last year so if so then there
>>>>>>> shouldn't
>>>>>>> be any problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Take care
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> James
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Scott Howell" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is so
>>>>>>>> unreal,
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are other
>>>>>>>> reasons
>>>>>>>> beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you that $30
>>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>>> very small price to pay for the improvements and many of which
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>> not have considered or realized.
>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:47 AM, william lomas wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> i doubt we get new voices except maybe the ones found in the i
>>>>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>>>>> I am going to wait to upgrade i think, what I have now works
>>>>>>>>> fine.
>>>>>>>>> UPgrading won't give us for example, access to flash content  
>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>> no
>>>>>>>>> point in me upgrading since a lot of sites I use, require  
>>>>>>>>> flash
>>>>>>>>> navigation which adobe have not yet incorporated into the
>>>>>>>>> safari or
>>>>>>>>> other web browsers
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 02:53, Jenny Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I'm very very glad to hear this wonderful news. A little
>>>>>>>>>> bummed I
>>>>>>>>>> don't have a fancy trackpad. I have heard some of the iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> demos
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> gestures just sound so cool and fun.   I guess I'll just put
>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> old tech. LOL I hope to get an iPhone in the future and will
>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>> happy
>>>>>>>>>> to wait 'til then to try gestures. Unless my getting a new
>>>>>>>>>> macbook
>>>>>>>>>> happens first. But as this one is still fairly newish I'll
>>>>>>>>>> wait.
>>>>>>>>>> Who
>>>>>>>>>> know by the time it comes time for me to get a new macbook
>>>>>>>>>> they'll of
>>>>>>>>>> come up with many more new and cool things. : smiley :
>>>>>>>>>> Can't wait 'til SL comes out. I know it's not too far off  
>>>>>>>>>> but.
>>>>>>>>>> It
>>>>>>>>>> sounds so awesome. Am keen to hear any new voices. Have  
>>>>>>>>>> always
>>>>>>>>>> liked
>>>>>>>>>> the UK voices. The best thing would be a UK version of Alex,
>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> breths and all. I still think that's uber cool how Alex voice
>>>>>>>>>> does
>>>>>>>>>> that.
>>>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny, first only the Aluminum MacBooks contain the multi-
>>>>>>>>>>> touch
>>>>>>>>>>> trackpad unless Apple upgrades the MacBook line-Remember the
>>>>>>>>>>> aluminum
>>>>>>>>>>> models are now referred to as the MacBook Pro line. Yes SL
>>>>>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>>>>>> work
>>>>>>>>>>> fine on your model. The most significant requirement is it
>>>>>>>>>>> must
>>>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> Intel processor since the Power PC chips, such as found in
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> G4/G5
>>>>>>>>>>> machines will not be supported by SL. I'd recommend you have
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>>> 2Gb ram, but 1Gb will get the job done. The commands, which
>>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>>> issued
>>>>>>>>>>> from the trackpad are the same commands you can issue
>>>>>>>>>>> currently
>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>> VO. It is another means to interact with the os using VO and
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>> hard to say what the future holds for such a trackpad and  
>>>>>>>>>>> VO.
>>>>>>>>>>> The
>>>>>>>>>>> point is that if you have heard the iPhone demos, you can  
>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>>>> of how the trackpad could behave and a little imagination
>>>>>>>>>>> might
>>>>>>>>>>> lead
>>>>>>>>>>> you to speculate what Apple could possibly do in the future.
>>>>>>>>>>> So, have no fear and prepare to upgrade, it will be well
>>>>>>>>>>> worth
>>>>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro line is  
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>> line
>>>>>>>>>>>> that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook in
>>>>>>>>>>>> April
>>>>>>>>>>>> of 08
>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is the little white one. I adore it and have been
>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> SL to come out.  Will SL even work at all on this sort of
>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook?
>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the os will work but will VO function if I don't
>>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> fancy mousepad thing? Are there keyboard shortcuts to do
>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever
>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>> doable with the mousepad? Sorry to be so abrupt gotta run.
>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> any answers
>>>>>>>>>>>> best wishes
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Claude Renaud <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello James,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> Hi everyone,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> I've been reading the new VO features in Snow Leopard.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where di you read this please ?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claude Renaud
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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