we don't even know if they are to be included. if and i mean if they were, they will be i assume the ones that are on the ipod shuffle and the i phone
On 7 Jul 2009, at 22:09, James & Nash wrote: > > Hi Justin, > > Is there anywhere that I can hear a sample of these synthesizers > please? > > Take care > > James > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Justin Harford" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 9:42 PM > Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard > > >> >> Hmm, I just went over the snow leopard description and it is true >> that >> it makes no mention of other synthesizers, though it does mention >> that >> the quick-start tutorial is localized in a number of languages. >> Nevertheless, I hardly think supposing that it will have other >> language synthesizers is a terribly outrageous postulation. I mean >> just look at the technology we have in the iPhone. It is now >> possible >> to go through the languages menu, and hear a number of languages >> including french, portuguese both brazilian and portugal, Spanish, >> Chinese, italian etc all spoken. We know that the iPod shuffle also >> has the ability to pronounce the names of songs in other languages. >> >> Yes I feel safe, without having tried it for myself, in asserting >> that >> the next version of Mac OS X will not only have language >> localization, >> but the synthesizers to hear that language spoken. Granted it won't >> be as nice as Alex. It certainly would be crazy to think that Alex >> is >> going to be speaking anything more than English. The synthesizers >> will be like those on the iPhone. >> >> Regards >> Justin Harford >> On Jul 7, 2009, at 11:24 AM, James & Nash wrote: >> >>> >>> If that does happen, that's fantastic news. Accapella are fantastic >>> voices >>> but it would be cool to have French and other European and Slavic >>> languages >>> etc included by default. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "william lomas" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 7:15 PM >>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>> >>> >>>> >>>> fair enough though we are all blind and have a right to know what >>>> will >>>> be included in my view >>>> >>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 19:11, Alex Jurgensen wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> Red flag, >>>>> >>>>> We are moving into grey ares. Please keep the posts NDA compliant. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Alex, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 7-Jul-09, at 10:46 AM, Justin Harford wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> It will. >>>>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 10:13 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> what I meant to say was I am not sure if voice over itself will >>>>>>> ship >>>>>>> with voices in italian, greek, arabic, russian polish, etc. or >>>>>>> whether >>>>>>> we are still locked down to using acapella >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 18:07, Koumanova Rostislava wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> i did not understand this post. >>>>>>>> i know that you have to buy the foreign languages. >>>>>>>> rk >>>>>>>> Il giorno 07/lug/09, alle ore 18:06, william lomas ha scritto: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> it says on the site the quickstart is localised in eighteen >>>>>>>>> languages >>>>>>>>> with nine new ones and with the voices you can hear it in your >>>>>>>>> own >>>>>>>>> languages >>>>>>>>> but i hope that the eighteen or so work with pre-defined >>>>>>>>> foreign >>>>>>>>> voices >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:51, Simon Cavendish wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> O yes, I entirely agree. They have always acknowledged my >>>>>>>>>> posts, >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> I'm sure they are trying to do their best in Braille >>>>>>>>>> support. I >>>>>>>>>> wouldn't be without my Mac now. No regrets switching on my >>>>>>>>>> part! >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> With best wishes, Simon >>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 16:44, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I hear what you're saying Simon. To Apple's credit, they >>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>> acknowledged my messages and have offered support where they >>>>>>>>>>> can. I >>>>>>>>>>> still >>>>>>>>>>> like and would continue to use Windows for things but I do >>>>>>>>>>> miss >>>>>>>>>>> Mac. >>>>>>>>>>> That's >>>>>>>>>>> why I'm going to purchase a new one. >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Simon Cavendish" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 4:34 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I have been e-mailing Apple accessibility regarding >>>>>>>>>>>> providing a >>>>>>>>>>>> broader support in refreshable Braille for other >>>>>>>>>>>> languages. I >>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>> hope >>>>>>>>>>>> Snow Leopard is going to bring this aspect to those of us >>>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>> benefit from it. It would certainly accelerate my leaving >>>>>>>>>>>> Windows >>>>>>>>>>>> behind altogether. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> With best wishes >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Simon >>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:50, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Well on the Snow Leopard page there is a host of different >>>>>>>>>>>>> features. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, I >>>>>>>>>>>>> think I remember reading that something - it may have been >>>>>>>>>>>>> Voice >>>>>>>>>>>>> Over - was >>>>>>>>>>>>> localized in about 40 different languages. But I'm not >>>>>>>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>> Braille >>>>>>>>>>>>> support. However, if you can some way implement BRLTTY or >>>>>>>>>>>>> ask >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>>>>>>> to do so >>>>>>>>>>>>> we may get native foreign language Braille support. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> think >>>>>>>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> Linux >>>>>>>>>>>>> based, so this should not be too difficult. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "william lomas" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:39 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> is there a complete list of new features? i.e. >>>>>>>>>>>>> .do we get new language voices i wonder >>>>>>>>>>>>> . new braille support in other alnguages? >>>>>>>>>>>>> etc >>>>>>>>>>>>> i guess we will not know these details really until the >>>>>>>>>>>>> product >>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> out >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 11:29, James & Nash wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It sounds like Snow Leopard is an upgrade. Is this the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> case? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fortunately, I >>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a copy of 10.5 which I bought last year so if so >>>>>>>>>>>>>> then >>>>>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>> be any problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Take care >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> James >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Scott Howell" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:25 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Voice Over in Snow Leopard >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe so, but it will be worth upgrading and the cost is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unreal, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't make much since to skip this upgrade. There are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> beyond accessibility to upgrade. I can guarantee you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $30 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very small price to pay for the improvements and many of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not have considered or realized. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 7, 2009, at 2:47 AM, william lomas wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i doubt we get new voices except maybe the ones found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the i >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I am going to wait to upgrade i think, what I have now >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> works >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UPgrading won't give us for example, access to flash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> content >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> no >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point in me upgrading since a lot of sites I use, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> require >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> flash >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation which adobe have not yet incorporated into >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> safari or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other web browsers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7 Jul 2009, at 02:53, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yay! I'm very very glad to hear this wonderful news. A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bummed I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't have a fancy trackpad. I have heard some of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> demos >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gestures just sound so cool and fun. I guess I'll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> old tech. LOL I hope to get an iPhone in the future >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to wait 'til then to try gestures. Unless my getting a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happens first. But as this one is still fairly newish >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wait. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know by the time it comes time for me to get a new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they'll of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come up with many more new and cool things. : smiley : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can't wait 'til SL comes out. I know it's not too far >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds so awesome. Am keen to hear any new voices. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> liked >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the UK voices. The best thing would be a UK version of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> breths and all. I still think that's uber cool how >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> voice >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> does >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Scott Howell <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny, first only the Aluminum MacBooks contain the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multi- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> touch >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trackpad unless Apple upgrades the MacBook line- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Remember >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aluminum >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> models are now referred to as the MacBook Pro line. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SL >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fine on your model. The most significant >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> requirement is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Intel processor since the Power PC chips, such as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> found >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> G4/G5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> machines will not be supported by SL. I'd recommend >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> least >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2Gb ram, but 1Gb will get the job done. The commands, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issued >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from the trackpad are the same commands you can issue >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VO. It is another means to interact with the os using >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VO >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hard to say what the future holds for such a trackpad >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> VO. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point is that if you have heard the iPhone demos, you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> idea >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of how the trackpad could behave and a little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> imagination >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lead >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to speculate what Apple could possibly do in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> future. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, have no fear and prepare to upgrade, it will be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worth >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jul 6, 2009, at 7:59 PM, Jenny Kennedy wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay. So am I to understand that the macbook pro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> line >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that has this fancy mousepad thing? I got my macbook >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> April >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of 08 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and it is the little white one. I adore it and have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> been >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> SL to come out. Will SL even work at all on this >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sort >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macbook? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure the os will work but will VO function if I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fancy mousepad thing? Are there keyboard shortcuts >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doable with the mousepad? Sorry to be so abrupt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gotta >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any answers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best wishes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jenny >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 7/6/09, Claude Renaud <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello James, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sunday, July 5, 2009, 12:31:19 PM, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JN> I've been reading the new VO features in Snow >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Leopard. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where di you read this please ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Claude Renaud >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> >>> >>> >>>> >> >> >>> >> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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