Hi Anouk,

When you buy your macbook it won't have a numpad.  That means you  
won't be able to use the fn key and a key on your keyboard to turn  
hal's v-focus on and off if you decide to co-operate windows and mac  
OS in some way  You could presumably buy an external number pad, but I  
don't really want to cary around the extra componant and have to set  
it up and use it on busses and trains and such.  It would just make my  
life hellishly easy if there were a number pad built onto my standard  
macbook keybord, but they ditched it and didn't replace it with  
anything useful.  So, in that sense I'm very disgusted with apple.

All my old network servers and file boxes are in storage at my  
parents' place and haven't been updated in ages.  My parents still use  
the linux box but the only thing it runs any more is a ventrilo  
server.  All my windows boxes are so ancient that they might as well  
go to the great electronics resycler in the sky, but I've been  
thinking lately that I'd like to build a new file/network server and  
make it some form of gnoame or some other grafical interface for  
linux.  The trick is finding a nice stripped down and stable one so  
the box will stay up for a reasonable ammount of time before it needs  
to be rebooted.

I don't really have anything against windows.  I've got to teach it  
after all, and so it wouldn't do to hate.  But I have to admit,  
windows boars and frustrates me, where-as the few things I like to do  
on my own computers here I can do on my mac without any fus about  
drivers registries, compadibility or any of that fiddly garbage you  
get with windows, especially vista.  I'll have to force myself to be  
interested when windows seven comes out because I'll have to teach it,  
but the computer itself doesn't really facinate me the way it did back  
in the library days, so for me it's nice to be able to come home and  
press a button and then walk away from computer and listen to my  
current book or my huge playlist of music albumns, and not have to  
worry.

Best,

erik burggraaf
A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
Phone: 888-255-5194
Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com

On 18-Jul-09, at 8:34 AM, a radix wrote:

>
> Hey Erik, So there are no macbooks with numpad? Cant you buy an  
> external
> one? I myself have never used a numpad and only need to use the fn  
> key on my
> laptop if I want to turn on/off virtual focus (hal).
> btw, do you still use linux/windows or just os x now?
> Thanks,
> Greetings, Anouk,
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "erik burggraaf" <e...@erik-burggraaf.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 2:19 PM
> Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac  
> take two
> hands?
>
>
>>
>> Hi Anouk,  The numpad is in deed optional, and there really isn't  
>> that
>> much difference between using vo on a laptop or desktop
>> configuration.  Although having said that, my disgust at not having a
>> numpad on my laptop keybord any more and my desire for a right hand
>> control key really no know bounds.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> erik burggraaf
>> A+ sertified technician and user support consultant.
>> Phone: 888-255-5194
>> Email: e...@erik-burggraaf.com
>>
>> On 18-Jul-09, at 8:02 AM, a radix wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi, Do you actually need the numeric keypad to use voicover? I
>>> thought it
>>> was optional. If it is optional then there is not much difference  
>>> imo
>>> between using it on a laptop or a pc...
>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Victor Tsaran" <vtsa...@gmail.com>
>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:42 AM
>>> Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Beware, however, that even though you can lock control and option
>>>> keys,
>>>> you will find yourself in frequent situations where you need to
>>>> unlock
>>>> them, e.g. when browsing the web or trying to interact with various
>>>> objects (tables, HTML CONTENT areas etc).
>>>> It does get a little annoying to use voiceover for long periods of
>>>> time,
>>>> especially if you are a heavy laptop user.
>>>> Good luck,
>>>> Vic
>>>>
>>>> On 7/17/2009 7:03 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>>> You can also lock the voiceover keys on with VO and semicolon.
>>>>> Then you
>>>>> don't have to hold down control and option while doing voiceover
>>>>> commands.
>>>>>
>>>>> CB
>>>>>
>>>>> william lomas wrote:
>>>>>> you have to use control option and arrow keys, to navigate around
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 17 Jul 2009, at 14:31, a radix wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello everyone, ok this may sem elike a strange question but I
>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>> that, if you want to navigate through a window to review it,  
>>>>>>> or a
>>>>>>> document for example you need to use the voice key (which is
>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>> command or control if i got that right)+ arrow down or up, but
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> tha tnot require both hand and is there a way to do it single
>>>>>>> handedly. I use braille all the time and this would make it a  
>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>> slower for me to read stuff, or will maybe the arrow keys on my
>>>>>>> braille display be able to simulate this, i Wonder.
>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -- 
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> I tweet about music and accessibility at http://www.twitter.com/
>>>> vick08
>>>> or check my site at http://www.victortsaran.com
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>>
>
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