Hi May,

No, you don't need to have a numeric keypad if you want to put Windows  
on your Mac. The usual issue is that people who put Windows onto  
curremt Mac laptops using VMWare Fusion end up having to remap the  
JAWS insert key to another key.  On the older Mac laptops which had  
embedded numeric keypads, you would use the "0" key of the (embedded)  
number pad. There are a couple of ways to handle key remapping --  
either you use a free program called Spark, which is basically a  
Windows registry hack, and allows you to choose a key from one list  
view window and map it to another key you select in a second list view  
to remap, or you can do this under Fusion preferences with a one-time  
connection to a full-size keyboard, where you physically press the key  
you want to remap. (The Fusion method works for remapping keys in any  
operating system -- could be linux, for example).  This is only an  
issue with the Mac laptop setups where you're not using a full-size  
keyboard, and is easily solved.

I don't have Windows installed on my Mac, but there are several other  
list users who do, and who could answer your questions in more detail.

Cheers,

Esther


On Jul 18, 2009, at 17:57, May and Wynter wrote:

>
> If I put windows on my mac machine when I get it, do I have to have  
> the
> keypad tha you are talking about to use windows?
>
> May, I'm ready for the stress to end. Off to Edmonton on the 25th.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Esther" <mori...@mac.com>
> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 8:29 PM
> Subject: Re: mac/voiceover on a laptopRe: does reading on the mac  
> take two
> hands?
>
>
>>
>> Hi Anouk,
>>
>> You don't need to use a numeric keypad with VoiceOver, but with
>> Leopard you have another option of customizing your frequently used
>> VoiceOver commands with the NumPad Commander.  I did get a USB  
>> keypad,
>> the Lenovo 33L3225 Numeric Keypad, so I could learn the NumPad
>> Commander sequences with my laptop.  (This also works with Windows  
>> and
>> with Linux, incidentally).   Most of the time I use VoiceOver from my
>> laptop without any attachments.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Esther
>>
>> On Jul 18, 2009, at 12:45, Alex Jurgensen wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> It is optional with a numpad, but it enhances it.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Alex,
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18-Jul-09, at 5:02 AM, a radix wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Hi, Do you actually need the numeric keypad to use voicover? I
>>>> thought it
>>>> was optional. If it is optional then there is not much difference  
>>>> imo
>>>> between using it on a laptop or a pc...
>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Victor Tsaran" <vtsa...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:42 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: does reading on the mac take two hands?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Beware, however, that even though you can lock control and option
>>>>> keys,
>>>>> you will find yourself in frequent situations where you need to
>>>>> unlock
>>>>> them, e.g. when browsing the web or trying to interact with  
>>>>> various
>>>>> objects (tables, HTML CONTENT areas etc).
>>>>> It does get a little annoying to use voiceover for long periods of
>>>>> time,
>>>>> especially if you are a heavy laptop user.
>>>>> Good luck,
>>>>> Vic
>>>>>
>>>>> On 7/17/2009 7:03 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:
>>>>>> You can also lock the voiceover keys on with VO and semicolon.
>>>>>> Then you
>>>>>> don't have to hold down control and option while doing voiceover
>>>>>> commands.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> CB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> william lomas wrote:
>>>>>>> you have to use control option and arrow keys, to navigate  
>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 17 Jul 2009, at 14:31, a radix wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello everyone, ok this may sem elike a strange question but I
>>>>>>>> read
>>>>>>>> that, if you want to navigate through a window to review it,  
>>>>>>>> or a
>>>>>>>> document for example you need to use the voice key (which is
>>>>>>>> either
>>>>>>>> command or control if i got that right)+ arrow down or up, but
>>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>>> tha tnot require both hand and is there a way to do it single
>>>>>>>> handedly. I use braille all the time and this would make it a  
>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>> slower for me to read stuff, or will maybe the arrow keys on my
>>>>>>>> braille display be able to simulate this, i Wonder.
>>>>>>>> Greetings, Anouk,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -- 
>>>>>
>>>>> ---
>>>>> I tweet about music and accessibility at http://www.twitter.com/
>>>>> vick08
>>>>> or check my site at http://www.victortsaran.com
>>>>> ---
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>>
>
>
> >


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