Hi Les, This is a good question. My understanding is that the modifier keystrokes for things like navigation, interacting, and things like that will be able to be handled on the track pad, but that you'll still need to use vo keys for other types of commands. I think waiting until you have your Mac with Snow Leopard to decide about an external keyboard makes a lot of sense, I just wanted to put it on the table as an option. Take care, Donna
> -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 10:20 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Keyboard Help > > > Hi Donna, > > Thanks. I understand that in Snow Leopard, the modifier keystrokes > won't be > necessary to perform, although I'm wondering what that means? I say > that > because if one can just use arrow keys in VoiceOver and the same thing > is > true with specific applications, I'm not certain how that will work. > I'm > actually glad I'm waiting to purchase my laptop once Snow Leopard comes > out, > as I'll learn whatever techniques are available through the upgraded > OS. > Even with this added functionality, an external keyboard may make > sense. > Les > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Donna Goodin > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 9:18 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: RE: Keyboard Help > > > Hi Les, > > I actually do dislike the fact that you have to cross your hands over. > It > doesn't happen all that frequently, but it happens enough that I don't > care > for it. There is an option to lock the VO keys on. I am also not a > huge > fan of doing this, because I've found that every time I do, I end up > having > to use some command(s) where I don't want them on, so have to turn them > back > off again. One option you have is to purchase an external keyboard. > I > did this and am *very happy that I did. If you get the larger keyboard > with > the numpad, you get lots of options. You get VO keys on either side of > the > spacebar--so you don't have to cross your hands over-- you get the > numpad, > which means you can use numpad commander, and you get seven additional > function keys. With numpad commander, you have dedicated VO keys. You > also > end up with some programmable keys, which is nice. My thinking is that > when > I'm travelling or working from another location, the laptop keyboard > will be > fine, but that for my everyday usage, I will use the external > keyboared. > HTH, > Donna > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Les Kriegler > > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 5:41 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: RE: Keyboard Help > > > > > > Hi Mark, > > > > Thanks for the quick response. Wouldn't you have to crosso ver > > frequently or do you have the Ctrl and Option keys on by default? I > > read something about that option, but don't recall if it's set in VO > > Utilities or System Preferences? > > > > Les > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Baxter > > Sent: Monday, August 10, 2009 4:39 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: Keyboard Help > > > > > > This is the major drawback to VO for me; on a Macbook, there is only > > one control key, on the left side. This means that, unless you've > got > > seven fingers or are strangely double-jointed, sometimes you have to > > cross your hands at the wrists. This doesn't happen very frequently, > > though, and it's not a huge inconvenience. I do wonder about the > wear > > and tear on the keyboard, though, and am hoping that Snow Leopard > will > > have a work- around for this. > > > > > > Mark BurningHawk Baxter > > > > Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 > > MSN: [email protected] > > My home page: > > http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ > > > > > > > > > > __________ NOD32 4321 (20090810) Information __________ > > > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.49/2294 - Release Date: > > 08/10/09 06:10:00 > > > > > __________ NOD32 4322 (20090810) Information __________ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.49/2294 - Release Date: > 08/10/09 06:10:00 --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
