They don't have an excuse, but I would be very surprised if they do it. It was in Apple's best interest to create a screen reader for the Mac, but no one would have cared a lot if the iPhone wasn't accessible. But Apple went the extra mile here. Now, if I could only figure this Mac which I am currently using to send this message. On Aug 23, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote:
> > Yes, what apple has done is definitely a first. And, this leaves the > other phone manufacturers without excuse that making a touch screen > accessible is not possible. Hopefully other companies will build > accessibility in to their phones, the way it should be. > On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Rich Ring wrote: > >> I didn't want an iPhone when I first saw it. I didn't believe I >> would master it. However, with a lot of practice and a lot of >> yelling at myself and the phone, I feel pretty comfortable with it >> now. It is amazing that Apple engineers could come up with a way to >> make the most visual interface one could imagine workable for people >> who can't see the screen. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Scott Howell >> To: [email protected] >> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:37 AM >> Subject: Re: iphone vs pac mate >> >> Yeah, I understand that and the typing wasn't so much the issue, >> just couldn't quite figure out when I was swiping left/right while >> in a menu; I was hearing characters and when swiping up/down I was >> hearing menu items. Like I said, I've heard all the podcasts and >> the like, but really had no idea what I was doing really only having >> it in my hands for just a little while. However, I have a much >> better feel for it and of course without the security cable >> attached, it will be much easier to hold and such. I'm very much >> impressed with the phone and want one. THink I'll be a little more >> patient and see what happens by the end of the year and if a new >> model will be out with maybe a little better battery life. :) >> Actually, I'm wondering what folks are finding for battery life. >> I'm sure mine would be a little shorter then if just using the phone >> since I'd want to replace my iPod basically. :) >> >> On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >> >>> You get used to the typing. It can take a while, but you do. >>> Best, >>> Donna >>> On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>> >>>> Funny, I had the opportunity to play with the iPhone at the AT&T >>>> store today and I so wanted one. The big thing holding me up is >>>> that AT&T doesn't have enough coverage quite yet in our subway >>>> system and VZW does have better coverage in general, but that >>>> didn't stop me from reaching toward my wallet at least once. The >>>> only tricky part I couldn't really figure out initially is I had >>>> open a note and tried typing, but that wasn't quite as successful, >>>> but then I also had the phone tied to the alarm cable, which >>>> didn't let me get to far. :) Then I hit home and tried to navigate >>>> to another app while the notes was open and I heard letters and >>>> application names. Well, for not having used the phone ever, it >>>> wasn't bad and I really didn't have a good environment to play in, >>>> but the volume was just loud enough for me to do a bit of playing. >>>> I think it would have been easier if I had been able to just hold >>>> the phone without any wires and walk around/out the door, I mean >>>> really get into playing with it. Now here is the best part. I >>>> asked the gent at the store about accessing the menu to turn >>>> VoiceOver on and damn if he didn't know exactly where it was and >>>> even knew what VoiceOver was. I was quite impressed. >>>> >>>> On Aug 22, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Rich Ring wrote: >>>> >>>>> The iPhone is wonderful in many ways. I wish I could send >>>>> contacts via bluetooth as I could with a Nokia phone, and I wish >>>>> it was a bit easier to delete text messages, and I truly wish the >>>>> battery life was better, but I do love the little critter. >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: John Sanfilippo >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:40 AM >>>>> Subject: Re: iphone vs pac mate >>>>> >>>>> personal opinion, >>>>> >>>>> The pac mate and street talk are both dead animals. The only >>>>> thing I like about the pac mate now is the braille display and >>>>> the ability to use it or the pac mate itself if either is not >>>>> working. The braille display is the better part of the hardware, >>>>> in my opinion. >>>>> >>>>> My experience with the pac mate and street talk, is that: >>>>> >>>>> 1, the gps receiver provided with the package can be far too >>>>> tardy in tracking satelites, or being tracked by them, take your >>>>> pick. >>>>> >>>>> 2, you need a blue tooth card installed in one of the cf slots, >>>>> and your maps installed in the other, which means you need to do >>>>> some jiggling around and setting up before you can get going. >>>>> >>>>> 3, I found that the entire setup was a hoffible drain on the pm >>>>> battery. This is true on the cel phone as well, but at least >>>>> there, I can bring along a spare battery and there is no setup. >>>>> >>>>> My two cents. >>>>> >>>>> js >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>> From: John G. Heim >>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:11 PM >>>>> Subject: iphone vs pac mate >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am thinking of selling my Pac Mate in favor of an iphone. My >>>>> main question >>>>> is whether I can get a comperable GPS system to a Pac Mate with >>>>> StreetTalk. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >>> > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
