Tech crunch had a slightly different view as to the validity of Apple's claims in the FCC response:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2009/08/21/the-simple-truth-whats-really-going-on-with-apple-google-att-and-the-fcc/ CB Maxwell Ivey Jr. wrote: > Hello; Yes, apple has done a great thing with the iphone. Those of > you that have one should read the apple response to an fcc filing by > google on the apple website. It appears that google is attempting to > use the fcc to force apple to carry google's whole package of phone > aps. I was impressed with apple's responses to the questions and the > fact that they listed the request for information and their answers in > such a public forumn. Its another example of how a company trying to > do things the right way is being put upon by other companies that > could care less about accessibility as long as they get their market > share. Check it out. there is a link to it on the apple main page. > Take care, Max > On Aug 23, 2009, at 9:59 AM, Mike Arrigo wrote: > > >> Yes, what apple has done is definitely a first. And, this leaves the >> other phone manufacturers without excuse that making a touch screen >> accessible is not possible. Hopefully other companies will build >> accessibility in to their phones, the way it should be. >> On Aug 23, 2009, at 8:39 AM, Rich Ring wrote: >> >> >>> I didn't want an iPhone when I first saw it. I didn't believe I >>> would master it. However, with a lot of practice and a lot of >>> yelling at myself and the phone, I feel pretty comfortable with it >>> now. It is amazing that Apple engineers could come up with a way to >>> make the most visual interface one could imagine workable for people >>> who can't see the screen. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Scott Howell >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 4:37 AM >>> Subject: Re: iphone vs pac mate >>> >>> Yeah, I understand that and the typing wasn't so much the issue, >>> just couldn't quite figure out when I was swiping left/right while >>> in a menu; I was hearing characters and when swiping up/down I was >>> hearing menu items. Like I said, I've heard all the podcasts and >>> the like, but really had no idea what I was doing really only having >>> it in my hands for just a little while. However, I have a much >>> better feel for it and of course without the security cable >>> attached, it will be much easier to hold and such. I'm very much >>> impressed with the phone and want one. THink I'll be a little more >>> patient and see what happens by the end of the year and if a new >>> model will be out with maybe a little better battery life. :) >>> Actually, I'm wondering what folks are finding for battery life. >>> I'm sure mine would be a little shorter then if just using the phone >>> since I'd want to replace my iPod basically. :) >>> >>> On Aug 22, 2009, at 8:57 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: >>> >>> >>>> You get used to the typing. It can take a while, but you do. >>>> Best, >>>> Donna >>>> On Aug 22, 2009, at 5:29 PM, Scott Howell wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Funny, I had the opportunity to play with the iPhone at the AT&T >>>>> store today and I so wanted one. The big thing holding me up is >>>>> that AT&T doesn't have enough coverage quite yet in our subway >>>>> system and VZW does have better coverage in general, but that >>>>> didn't stop me from reaching toward my wallet at least once. The >>>>> only tricky part I couldn't really figure out initially is I had >>>>> open a note and tried typing, but that wasn't quite as successful, >>>>> but then I also had the phone tied to the alarm cable, which >>>>> didn't let me get to far. :) Then I hit home and tried to navigate >>>>> to another app while the notes was open and I heard letters and >>>>> application names. Well, for not having used the phone ever, it >>>>> wasn't bad and I really didn't have a good environment to play in, >>>>> but the volume was just loud enough for me to do a bit of playing. >>>>> I think it would have been easier if I had been able to just hold >>>>> the phone without any wires and walk around/out the door, I mean >>>>> really get into playing with it. Now here is the best part. I >>>>> asked the gent at the store about accessing the menu to turn >>>>> VoiceOver on and damn if he didn't know exactly where it was and >>>>> even knew what VoiceOver was. I was quite impressed. >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 22, 2009, at 11:08 AM, Rich Ring wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> The iPhone is wonderful in many ways. I wish I could send >>>>>> contacts via bluetooth as I could with a Nokia phone, and I wish >>>>>> it was a bit easier to delete text messages, and I truly wish the >>>>>> battery life was better, but I do love the little critter. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: John Sanfilippo >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 9:40 AM >>>>>> Subject: Re: iphone vs pac mate >>>>>> >>>>>> personal opinion, >>>>>> >>>>>> The pac mate and street talk are both dead animals. The only >>>>>> thing I like about the pac mate now is the braille display and >>>>>> the ability to use it or the pac mate itself if either is not >>>>>> working. The braille display is the better part of the hardware, >>>>>> in my opinion. >>>>>> >>>>>> My experience with the pac mate and street talk, is that: >>>>>> >>>>>> 1, the gps receiver provided with the package can be far too >>>>>> tardy in tracking satelites, or being tracked by them, take your >>>>>> pick. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2, you need a blue tooth card installed in one of the cf slots, >>>>>> and your maps installed in the other, which means you need to do >>>>>> some jiggling around and setting up before you can get going. >>>>>> >>>>>> 3, I found that the entire setup was a hoffible drain on the pm >>>>>> battery. This is true on the cel phone as well, but at least >>>>>> there, I can bring along a spare battery and there is no setup. >>>>>> >>>>>> My two cents. >>>>>> >>>>>> js >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>> From: John G. Heim >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 12:11 PM >>>>>> Subject: iphone vs pac mate >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I am thinking of selling my Pac Mate in favor of an iphone. My >>>>>> main question >>>>>> is whether I can get a comperable GPS system to a Pac Mate with >>>>>> StreetTalk. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
