Thanks all. So, to narrow the focus a bit, is it worth upgrading specifically 
for working with Pages, Finder, and Safari? She is about twelve years old now, 
and I have no idea if her vision will remain constant, or what she will focus 
on as far as computers growing up. Given that, I have to restrict my advice to 
her TVI to just the current situation, namely a 2009 or 2010 Macbook whose 
most-used apps are Safari, Pages, and Finder.

I see your points about learning the latest OS for future use, and i totally 
agree. If this were my client, I'd upgrade immediately and start teaching as 
much VO as she'd let me, but the only thing I can do is advice her TVI. It's a 
bit of a complicated situation, and I wish I had more say in it, but there it 
is.
On Mar 28, 2014, at 3:08 PM, Eugenia Firth <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi there 
> I occasionally teach adults computers. I did it as one of those "duties as 
> assigned" before I retired and started my current business. I also do some on 
> a voluntary basis, having started a VoiceOver special interest group with the 
> Apple Corps of Dallas. 
> 
> I can't tell you the number of totally blind adults I have met who started 
> out as partially sighted. That statement applies to my best childhood friend 
> and several others I know now. 
> 
> I try to encourage any low vision person I help with computers to learn the 
> speech use so that they know it if and when they need it. I found that some 
> people accept that suggestion, and some don't. Recently, I was having a 
> conversation with some adults who learned their blindness skills back in the 
> days when many partially sighted children learned braille etc. when nowadays 
> they would be taught to rely on their eyes. One of the ladies has kept her 
> vision, and the other is now totally blind and using braille all the time. 
> Both ladies said they were glad they learned like that as children. 
> 
> To get back on the topic at hand, I gather from what you are saying that this 
> is a child. If so, you may be able to convince her to learn this, if for no 
> other reason than she can show it off to the other kids. 
> As for upgrading, I don't think there are enough differences to cause her a 
> lot of grief unless the computer is barely able to be upgraded because of its 
> age or memory. It's not like Apple rewrote the whole system. Besides, like it 
> was said before, should her family get her a Mac, it will be under the newest 
> version of the software. Then she can learn the new Pages. 
> 
> Regards, 
> Gigi 
>  
> On Mar 28, 2014, at 12:56 PM, Alex Hall <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> I know. Unfortunately, it is a school Macbook, and even if it supports 10.9, 
>> the upgrade is controlled by the school. I could tell the TVI to suggest an 
>> upgrade, but the student is low-vision and only just getting used to using 
>> Voiceover. I'd hate to change the interface she is just starting to become 
>> familiar with and have her move backward. She will never need to be a VO 
>> power user; she uses it more as a crutch when print is too small or she 
>> loses the mouse. She could be more efficient with it than she can with the 
>> vision she has, but making her see that isn't my job. :D So unless there are 
>> big advantages to upgrading in terms of low vision/VO (and there may well be 
>> - I only really started using a Mac with 10.8) upgrading might hurt at this 
>> point. Then again, it might be a great idea which should really help, I 
>> really don't know. Any thoughts on this?
>> On Mar 28, 2014, at 1:40 PM, Anne Robertson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Why is the student using 10.6.8? Snow Leopard really is going back a bit in 
>>> terms of accessibility.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> Anne
>>> 
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