Hi,

That's more than enough space.

Later...

Tim Kilburn
Fort McMurray, AB Canada

On Apr 18, 2014, at 2:30 PM, Jane <juanitatig...@gmail.com> wrote:

> How much space do I need to have free on here? I have43.66GB free.
> 
> Jane
> 
>  
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2014, at 3:28 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> OK, here you go...
>> 
>> 1.  Close all windows and quit all applications.
>> 2.  Up to the Apple menu.
>> 3.  Down to Restart.
>> 
>> As you hear the startup chime, press down the cmd key and the "r" key 
>> simultaneously.  You can get yourself ready while the computer is going 
>> through the motions of shutting down so that your fingers are ready when the 
>> startup chime sounds.
>> 
>> 4.  Hold down those keys for about 3 or 4 seconds after the startup chime 
>> ends then release.
>> 5.  Wait for at least one minute then try pressing cmd-f5 to see if VO will 
>> start.  If it doesn't start, then wait a another 30 seconds or so and try 
>> turning VO on again.
>> 6.  Once it's on, VO-space on the Continue button to choose English as your 
>> language or change as needed.
>> 
>> On occasion, I've seen it where the Language Chooser doesn't appear, if 
>> that's the case, then you'll be at the Recovery dialog.
>> 
>> 7.  Interact with the Table and choose re-Install.
>> 8.  Stop Interacting with the Table then navigate to the continue button and 
>> press it with VO-space.
>> 9.  Follow the prompts to complete the installation.
>> 
>> It will likely ask for your Apple ID and confirm that you really want to do 
>> this.  It will also ask you to agree to all the license terms, you know, 
>> giving up your first born and such.  After all that, it will download the 
>> installer from the AppStore and go through the re-installation process.  It 
>> should restart after a while and you may need to turn VO back on so that you 
>> can determine its progress.  After everything is done, it hopefully will be 
>> back to normal.
>> 
>> Good luck.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 12:39 PM, Jane <juanitatig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Can you walk me through the re-install? I haven't had to do that in a 
>>> *looong* time.
>>> 
>>> Jane
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 18, 2014, at 1:34 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> That's a good idea Cara.  I've seen that happen in the past when I've 
>>>> forgot to turn cursor tracking back on with VO-shift-f3 after doing 
>>>> whatever.  It did cause these sorts of frustrations that didn't seem 
>>>> logical.  Certainly worth a try.
>>>> 
>>>> Later...
>>>>  
>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 9:38 PM, Cara Quinn <caraqu...@caraquinn.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jane,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Out of curiosity, have you checked your cursor tracking settings? It 
>>>>> sounds like your VO cursor might be routed to your mouse pointer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is just a guess but it might be worth a look before you go the route 
>>>>> of a reinstall.
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTH
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 4:44 PM, Jane <juanitatig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> If I do this, am I going to have to somehow re-authorize thiwcomputer? I 
>>>>> think I have maybe one authorization left.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jane
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 7:26 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That should be the one.  It's starting to look like you may need to do a 
>>>>>> re-install.  I wouldn't go the total clean install route yet.  You could 
>>>>>> try the "Re-install" option in the Recovery partition.  This would 
>>>>>> install the newest MacOS onto your system, hopefully fixing any issues 
>>>>>> that exist.  A good backup is preferred prior to attempting this but it 
>>>>>> is quicker and less problematic than a clean install.  I think it's 
>>>>>> worth a try for you.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Let me know if you need assistance getting started with this if you 
>>>>>> choose to go this way.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 2:46 PM, Jane <juanitatig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Are you talking about the BAttery plugin under Menu Extras? It won't 
>>>>>>> let me open that.  Or do I need to look elsewhere in the Core SErvices 
>>>>>>> folder?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 3:32 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hmmm.  I wouldn't bother doing another repair after this, as some 
>>>>>>>> items just don't seem to repair themselves.  How about you try the 
>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> * Go to your Finder.
>>>>>>>> * Open your Macintosh HD
>>>>>>>> * Open the System folder.
>>>>>>>> * Open the Library folder
>>>>>>>> * Open the Core Services folder.
>>>>>>>> * Open the Battery item.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Now try accessing your Menu Extras again with VO-m-m and see if the 
>>>>>>>> Battery Status menu is available.  If it is, then do the same process 
>>>>>>>> to get some of the other extras back onto the Status Menus.  If that 
>>>>>>>> doesn't do it, let me know.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Jane <juanitatig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I am repairing permissions for the third tie now and I am down to one 
>>>>>>>>> permission that needs to be repaired. Interestingly, it has nothing 
>>>>>>>>> to do with Status menus. It has to do with Safari. I still can't 
>>>>>>>>> access the extra menus, though.
>>>>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 17, 2014, at 11:07 AM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Don't rush to the reformat, that is a drastic and usually 
>>>>>>>>>> unnecessary task.  Try to do a repair permissions first.  To do so...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> * Go to the Finder.
>>>>>>>>>> * Press cmd-shift-u to open the Utilities folder.
>>>>>>>>>> * Navigate to the Disk Utility app and open it.
>>>>>>>>>> * From the table of disks, select your Macintosh HD.
>>>>>>>>>> * Stop Interacting with the table and select the First Aid tab.
>>>>>>>>>> * Navigate to the Repair Disk Permissions button and press it with 
>>>>>>>>>> VO-space.
>>>>>>>>>> * Wait patiently as it does its task.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes this needs performed more than once to fix most permission 
>>>>>>>>>> errors.  In some cases, you'll need to perform this from the 
>>>>>>>>>> Recovery Partition, but I'll wait to see if this does the job first. 
>>>>>>>>>>  By the way, what exactly happens when you press the VO-m-m command? 
>>>>>>>>>>  Is there an alert sound or simply takes you somewhere but no Menu 
>>>>>>>>>> Extras are available.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 4:16 PM, Jane <juanitatig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yep, I have tried with both. It doesn't work I bet I am going to 
>>>>>>>>>>> have to reformat and re-install once I have stuff backed up, *sigh*
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:13 PM, John Panarese <jpanar...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Are you using VO-m twice or control-F8 to get to the status 
>>>>>>>>>>>> menus?  This is not typical behavior.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Take Care
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:11 PM, Jane <juanitatig...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I tried both cycling VO off and on and a re-start of this 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> computer. It didn't make a difference. Any other thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 6:00 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbu...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would just suggest either cycling VO off then on or restarting 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your Mac.  This is not normal behaviour so, something has become 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> confused.  The cycling off/on of VO may do the trick but the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> restart is best and if that doesn't fix it, then post again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 16, 2014, at 3:19 PM, Robert C <gone.to.da...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Funny this comes up today for I just ran into the same issue 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> except I could not bring up the menu bar and control f3 did not 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work. Had to restart the Mac.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Quote of the nanosecond . . .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Be lions roaring through the forests of knowledge."
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --Bahá'í Scriptures
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Robert & Annie Yanni ke7nwn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> E-mail-
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gone.to.da...@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/16/2014 11:18 AM, Jane wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I can't seem to get to my Status menu things at all. VO-m 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> twice doesn't work. None of the trackpad commands seem to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> work. I guess it is there, somewhere, but I can't access it. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do any of you have ideas?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jane
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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