Sorry Jonnathan I'm feemale!

> On 13 May 2014, at 12:12 am, Jonathan Mosen <jmo...@mosen.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Gigi and all, I'd like to try and set some expectations regarding what 
> customers should expect from what companies when it comes to Braille displays.
> Kawl wrote to me a few days ago, and once we got past some terminology, I 
> established what he wanted was the ability to install Focus Blue firmware 
> updates via the Mac.
> Freedom Scientific presently doesn't produce any Mac software, but I agree 
> that it's not unreasonable to hope that if you've brought some hardware to 
> run on your Mac, you can upgrade it via that Mac. I can't give any 
> commitments at this point but I do want you and the list to know that the 
> request has been passed on and it is being taken seriously. Certainly 
> firmware upgrades are the responsibility of the Braille display manufacturer, 
> whoever that manufacturer is.
> There is another issue, and that involves some displays apparently not 
> working on certain variations of Mac. In this case, if the device is working 
> properly in all other situations, this is most likely to be an issue for 
> Apple to resolve. Any screen reader developer, in this case VoiceOver, writes 
> their own drivers to interface with a Braille display. The only drivers 
> Freedom Scientific write are for JAWS, which they also produce. From time to 
> time, something may happen which breaks support for certain displays, and 
> naturally this is highly frustrating for those affected.
> I'm using the Focus 40 Blue regularly on a Mac with no issues. This doesn't 
> help anyone who is having trouble, but it does suggest that the problem may 
> be isolated to certain kinds of Mac, or even certain kinds of Mac produced at 
> a certain time, so Apple Accessibility is your best bet for this. Like any 
> tricky software issue, the more data Apple can get, I'm sure the more likely 
> it will be that they can isolate and ultimately solve the problem.
> I hope that's of some help.
> Jonathan
>> On 12/05/2014, at 1:18 am, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi there '
>> I hope it works, but I might point out that if you call Freedom Scientific 
>> about your braille display like I did and you mention the words Macintosh 
>> computer, you are immediately told to call Apple. They won't even talk about 
>> it, no matter what your question is. I must say they sort of panicked when I 
>> asked about that cd that comes with the Focus 14. I didn't think it had a 
>> Mac installer on it since Apple puts those drives on our Macs, but I was 
>> hoping. I was told immediately no way should I put that cd in my Mac. They 
>> didn't know there was no way I was going to do that unless it was marked for 
>> that or they told me to do it. 
>> 
>> Regards, 
>> Gigi 
>> 
>>> On May 10, 2014, at 9:38 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I have written to Apple and to somebody who works in Freedom scientific to 
>>> see whether or not we can have firmware drivers as Mac installers. 
>>> Hopefully, we will get some results from that soon.
>>> 
>>>> On 10 May 2014, at 08:59 am, Annie Skov Nielsen 
>>>> <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Kawal.
>>>> 
>>>> It is good to write to apple. It maybe requires a cooperation between 
>>>> apple and freedom scientiffic to get it to work again.
>>>> 
>>>> Best regards Annie.
>>>>> Den 09/05/2014 kl. 22.41 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com>:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have written to Apple access ability or is it the other way round! To 
>>>>> discuss with Freedom scientific. Hopefully, I will have a response soon, 
>>>>> and will share it with you all. I have also written an email to Jonathan 
>>>>> Mosen to ask him to encourage freedom scientific to put Mac installers of 
>>>>> their products on their website.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 9 May 2014, at 09:19 pm, Annie Skov Nielsen 
>>>>>> <annieskovniel...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Kawal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I have 2 macs here, on the older mac it works on this mac from 2011 it 
>>>>>> will not load the driver as you said. I can not figure out what's going 
>>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Best regards Annie.
>>>>>>> Den 09/05/2014 kl. 21.05 skrev Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com>:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> it has nothing to do with the model, as the driver is stalled on the 
>>>>>>> bell display successfully. It is when you try and connect this 
>>>>>>> displayed via Bluetooth with the Mac.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 9 May 2014, at 06:57 pm, Teresa Cochran <batsfly...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This seems very strange. I've had a Focus 40 blue since 2010 and it 
>>>>>>>> has updated perfectly. Is this possibly a difference between older and 
>>>>>>>> newer models?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Visualize whirled peas.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On May 9, 2014, at 10:38 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> After updating the firmware on my Bluetooth Focus 40, it will not 
>>>>>>>>> pair to the Mac via Bluetooth as it says Failed to load Driver.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Suppose I'll have to send an e-mail to Accessibility.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>>>>> 
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